Right Arm...Fold and Lift or Just Fold ??????

[300Drive]

Would like your thought on the action of the right forearm. Seems to me, if it folds and lift (or lifts and folds, whatever the order), you would have a "bigger gap to drop" in order to "get into the slot" or to get the rigft forearm back on plane.

Alternatively,

If you simply folded your right elbow (it would probably still move up, but not much at all), it would be more efficient in getting that right elbow back on plane. More of a Hogan type action.

Your thoughts please!

BTW, I have been a "lifter" for years and have always struggled to get that elbow back on plane.

[EdZ]

The right elbow should move back and through on 'its' plane. Extensor action should be your goal, 'letting' the elbow bend is good, but trying to 'tuck' the elbow in, or holding against your side isn't (unless you are able to maintain your radius and center with a steep shoulder turn).

An image Yoda taught me re: the elbow position/right forearm was to imagine I was going to 'spear a fish' at the ball, or alternately, think of a right handed javelin throw through the ball (to your aiming point). The motion is basically the same, except you want to keep that right wrist bend. Keep that javelin 'in line' with your forearm, and your elbow will take care of itself.

[300Drive]

The right elbow should move back and through on 'its' plane. Extensor action should be your goal, 'letting' the elbow bend is good, but trying to 'tuck' the elbow in, or holding against your side isn't (unless you are able to maintain your radius and center with a steep shoulder turn).

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Yes, and you can "move the right elbow back and through on "its" plane" by lifting on the BS and "dropping it back" on plane, OR simply letting it fold (and as I said, it would still move up, but not by much) and unfold (you can do this without tucking it or pinning it to your side).

You get a flatter plane with the ladder and I believe its "theoretically" more effecient since you dont have as big of a gap to cover to get it back on plane on the forward swing (Nicklaus had to REALLY drop the elbow to get it back on plane, Hogan did not).

[jim_0068]

I don't see a lot wrong with it, but i would imagine there would be less power from it. Maybe i'm wrong, but that would be the obvious answer.

[12 piece bucket]

An image Yoda taught me re: the elbow position/right forearm was to imagine I was going to 'spear a fish' at the ball, or alternately, think of a right handed javelin throw through the ball (to your aiming point). The motion is basically the same, except you want to keep that right wrist bend. Keep that javelin 'in line' with your forearm, and your elbow will take care of itself.

Nice! These are fantastic images and will put your right on the Turn Shoulder Plane as well.

[Bagger Lance]

Originally Posted by EdZ

An image Yoda taught me re: the elbow position/right forearm was to imagine I was going to 'spear a fish' at the ball, or alternately, think of a right handed javelin throw through the ball (to your aiming point). The motion is basically the same, except you want to keep that right wrist bend. Keep that javelin 'in line' with your forearm, and your elbow will take care of itself.

Nice! These are fantastic images and will put your right on the Turn Shoulder Plane as well.

I have practiced that very thing for a few years and it's a great visual. The only note of caution for a traditional swinger is remember to aim that javelin only. If you start thrusting you will get one of two results; A hit or a right arm swing.

Bagger

[powerdraw]

this is precisely what gets confusing...so much emphasis on right arm action, when one thinks its a left arm swing.

it can and does get cofusing and its making noodle go nuts!
thrusting right arm via all these spear the fish thoughts seem to go hand in hand...no?

[6bmike]

this is precisely what gets confusing...so much emphasis on right arm action, when one thinks its a left arm swing.

it can and does get cofusing and its making noodle go nuts!
thrusting right arm via all these spear the fish thoughts seem to go hand in hand...no?

Well, what is the Right arm Action? It is a tracing action by the forearm. And the Left arm because of extensor action is the rhythm of the pivot- as Lynn says- “just a noodle, a string.” Let the hands be the boss, it should have trained the pivot to allow the hands the chance to fiercely dump number 3 pressure point down onto the back inside of the ball.

It’s a machine greater then its parts.

[Yoda]

This is precisely what gets confusing...so much emphasis on right arm action, when one thinks it's a left arm swing.

Powerdraw,

Forget Left Arm Swing.

Swingers should think Momentum Transfer (of the Body via the Pivot into the inert Left Arm).

Hitters: Right Arm Drive (against the 'equal and opposite reaction' of the Right Shoulder).

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