How Flat is Flat?

[lagster]

The Flat Left Wrist is one of the Imperatives, but how FLAT is flat? Back in the Square to Square days... the FLW was IN, but I believe many people probably actually got it ARCHED. The same is probably true today with TGM.

One can play with ARCHED, but Flat is probably better for most. Depending on one's grip... FLAT may visually LOOK a little BENT("equivalent"). Also, the way one's hand and wrist bone is per individual varies, so the look can vary.

Of course, if one CHOOSES to employ DOUBLE WRIST ACTION, the wrist will be BENT... at the TOP. With most good players, it Flattens during the IMPACT INTERVAL.

[Mathew]

The left wristcock motion is a perpendicular motion from the impact alignments (flying wedges)- up and down. Therefore the more turned that the grip becomes - the more that the wristcock motion turns into a wristbend but its still geometrically flat to the plane of the left wrist motion (left flying wedge). It is perhaps most preferable to have the grip set as such that the wristcock is truely flat so that it can be monitored easier.

[12 piece bucket]

The left wristcock motion is a perpendicular motion from the impact alignments (flying wedges)- up and down. Therefore the more turned that the grip becomes - the more that the wristcock motion turns into a wristbend but its still geometrically flat to the plane of the left wrist motion (left flying wedge). It is perhaps most preferable to have the grip set as such that the wristcock is truely flat so that it can be monitored easier.

Precisely. Good post.

[Daryl]

The left wristcock motion is a perpendicular motion from the impact alignments (flying wedges)- up and down. Therefore the more turned that the grip becomes - the more that the wristcock motion turns into a wristbend but its still geometrically flat to the plane of the left wrist motion (left flying wedge). It is perhaps most preferable to have the grip set as such that the wristcock is truely flat so that it can be monitored easier.

Nicely put. Is the left wrist bend (visual bend) at the top or end then comparatively the same as it appears if you cocked the left wrist in the impact fix location (or when the left arm-club flying wedge is intact)?

[brianmanzella]

With golfers of a 10 handicap and higher (more or less), I have had very little success with anything but visually flat. Even with strong-ish grips.

[SwingNorthtoSouth]

With golfers of a 10 handicap and higher (more or less), I have had very little success with anything but visually flat. Even with strong-ish grips.

[Mathew]

With golfers of a 10 handicap and higher (more or less), I have had very little success with anything but visually flat. Even with strong-ish grips.

The flying wedges maintain the correct impact alignments during the stroke. If you teach someone to change these alignments during the stroke it isn't 'doing it right' by Brian Manzella, its 'doing it wrong' by Brian Manzella. I don't care if its a 10 handicapper or a golfer who's average drive goes 30 yards - The only shortcuts are more and more know how. The flying wedges is a piece of that know how.

[birdie_man]

The flying wedges maintain the correct impact alignments during the stroke. If you teach someone to change these alignments during the stroke it isn't 'doing it right' by Brian Manzella, its 'doing it wrong' by Brian Manzella. I don't care if its a 10 handicapper or a golfer who's average drive goes 30 yards - The only shortcuts are more and more know how. The flying wedges is a piece of that know how.

But if it works....is it really doing it wrong?

[Mathew]

Nicely put. Is the left wrist bend (visual bend) at the top or end then comparatively the same as it appears if you cocked the left wrist in the impact fix location (or when the left arm-club flying wedge is intact)?

At impact fix the left wrist is vertical to the respective plane of the hinge action you wish to apply. The no.2 accumulator, the left wrist, moves the clubhead up and down in a perpendicular motion relative to its 'vertical' plane - as to not change the impact alignments of the clubface with its motion. Remember, the no.2 accumulator is a clubhead motion, not a clubface motion (thats acc no.3's role) ....and thats how to 'do it right'.

[Daryl]

At impact fix the left wrist is vertical to the respective plane of the hinge action you wish to apply. The no.2 accumulator, the left wrist, moves the clubhead up and down in a perpendicular motion relative to its 'vertical' plane - as to not change the impact alignments of the clubface with its motion. Remember, the no.2 accumulator is a clubhead motion, not a clubface motion (thats acc no.3's role) ....and thats how to 'do it right'.

Mathew,

If the back of the left hand faces down the angle of approach at impact fix, with the left arm and clubshaft in line, then is it perfectly vertical to the horizontal plane (horz Hing)? I'm a little confused here. I agree with what you are saying. Wristcock perpendicular/clubhead motion. But does that mean that all weak single action grips will have no slight bend at the top and all strong single action grips will? Even my questions sound foggy.