Swinging and half swings

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Anyone got any comments about swinging for half swings, such as a 50 yard shot? Swinging on these short shots seems a little cumbersome for me. Is hitting a better option or do i need to make adjustments when swinging?

[jim_0068]

This is why i suggest hitting for all chips and pitches.

The reason is that for a short shot, there is not much "force" that is "built up" in the backswing. So there is more "waiting" involved and it takes more time. If you rush it, you over accelerate and skull/fat the ball.

If you hit these shots, just pick it up and slam it back down. It's a no brainer.

[12 piece bucket]

This is why i suggest hitting for all chips and pitches.

The reason is that for a short shot, there is not much "force" that is "built up" in the backswing. So there is more "waiting" involved and it takes more time. If you rush it, you over accelerate and skull/fat the ball.

If you hit these shots, just pick it up and slam it back down. It's a no brainer.

Or you can cock it up and SLING it down.

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Thanks guys. It's just as i suspected.

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jim_0068, can i pick your brain regarding over accelerating? Are you referring to the hands? What's the difference between accelerating and over accelerating as it relates to the endless belt? From what i understand about the endless belt effect the hands move at a constant speed? If i'm right, then accelerating is the problem?

Just trying to lift some fog here.

[jim_0068]

you over accelerate if you reach your max hand speed too quickly in the downswing. You need steady acceleration and you want your hands to be moving at the same "rpm."

So if you have a fast tempo like nick price you want to match the tempo and speed of the hands for the backswing and downswing or you can be slower like Ernie.

What i find is that when you "swing" those chips and pitches if you do it too quickly you don't "build up" the necessary centrifugal force to contact the ball correctly because there's that "hit impulse." People don't want to have to "wait" for CF to catch up.

Thats why i recommend hitting. Pick it up and slam it down.

Now..bucket, you can surely cock it up and sling it down but in my experience it doesn't work for very many people when i give lessons.

[tongzilla]

Anyone got any comments about swinging for half swings, such as a 50 yard shot? Swinging on these short shots seems a little cumbersome for me. Is hitting a better option or do i need to make adjustments when swinging?

If you're not comfortable when Swinging with half swings, then you really haven't mastered Swinging with full swings.

[jim_0068]

My bias for hitting isn't my personal bias, it's just what i've noticed teaching. Teaching hitting for the short game (even if i'm teaching them swinging for the long game) just seems to work better for most people.

[john riegger]

if you are a swinger you better stay a swinger throughout drive to putt.use horizontal hinging and swinging for all shots.i showed lynn when he was in vegas how i do this out of the bunker.veery effecient even in the sand.you only have to adjust your grip put #3 on top of the shaft and you you normal stroke with horizontal hinge action.#
3 on top will not let the face close even the it feels the sane as hiiting a drive.pretty simple to just alter your grip and to make the same stroke.this allows you to keep constant acceleration through impact,but the shot will be vry soft when it lands.it is also very easy to flop it this way

[Seanmx]

if you are a swinger you better stay a swinger throughout drive to putt.use horizontal hinging and swinging for all shots.i showed lynn when he was in vegas how i do this out of the bunker.veery effecient even in the sand.you only have to adjust your grip put #3 on top of the shaft and you you normal stroke with horizontal hinge action.#
3 on top will not let the face close even the it feels the sane as hiiting a drive.pretty simple to just alter your grip and to make the same stroke.this allows you to keep constant acceleration through impact,but the shot will be vry soft when it lands.it is also very easy to flop it this way

Interesting method. Thanks John.