Intricacies of Hitting and Swinging

[tongzilla]

Is Drag Loading and Drive Loading really what differentiates a Swinger from a Hitter? I have come to the conclusion that the answer is no.

It is possible for you to Drag Load at Startdown and still Push the Club through Impact, so you will ultimately be classified as a Hitter. Or you can Drive Load but Pull the Club with Left Arm Centrifugal Power, hence you're a Swinger. I believe the former is actually quite common on Tour.

Any comments?

[YodasLuke]

Is Drag Loading and Drive Loading really what differentiates a Swinger from a Hitter? I have come to the conclusion that the answer is no.

It is possible for you to Drag Load at Startdown and still Push the Club through Impact, so you will ultimately be classified as a Hitter. Or you can Drive Load but Pull the Club with Left Arm Centrifugal Power, hence you're a Swinger. I believe the former is actually quite common on Tour.

Any comments?

I would say the prior is 4 barrel hitting, but you can't pull and push at the same time (reference 2-M-3 but correct the typo error of Pressure point #4 to #1 as found in 10-19-C). Per 10-19-A and 10-19-C, I'd have to say that it does differentiate somewhat as they are characteristics found in the first paragraph. But, "true" hitting and "true" swinging (7-2) are only this (and the only place to get this was from Yoda):

"The 'true' swinger allows centrifugal force to align both the clubface and the clubshaft. The 'manipulated hands swinger' allows centrifugal force to align the clubshaft but not the clubface. The 'true' hitter allows centrifugal force to align neither."

I have variations from 12-1-0 that create the 12-4-Ted, but I'm still creating the force with the right triceps through impact. For an example of variation, impact address gives me a better feel for my impact alignments. So, I use it. I would be offended if someone called me a swinger. I'm a 4 barrel hitter.

[tongzilla]

I would say the prior is 4 barrel hitting

Wow...does that mean the use of Accumulator #4 for a Hitter necessarily mean you're Drag Loading? Exciting stuff

[EdZ]

If I had to pick on 'single' difference between hitting and swinging, I would say 'rotation'.

That said, as Homer defined them, there really isn't any one item beyond thrust vs CF.

[Yoda]

If I had to pick on 'single' difference between hitting and swinging, I would say 'rotation'.

Right you are, EdZ.

Rotation -- Gyroscopic Action -- is created by both Swinger and Hitter. The difference between the two lies in how this Rotation (of the orbiting Club) is created:

Centrifugal Body Momentum Throw-Out Action (Swinger) versus Muscular Right Triceps Drive-Out Action (Hitter).

Once you Feel the difference...

All debate ends.

Why?

Because you know.

[Yoda]

Wow...does that mean the use of Accumulator #4 for a Hitter necessarily mean you're Drag Loading? Exciting stuff

No. The key is in what the Pivot Loads during the Start Down. Hitting, the Pivot Loads the Right Elbow to Drive the Club through Impact. Swinging, the Pivot Loads the Left Wrist to Drag it through.

[comdpa]

Is Drag Loading and Drive Loading really what differentiates a Swinger from a Hitter? I have come to the conclusion that the answer is no.

It is possible for you to Drag Load at Startdown and still Push the Club through Impact, so you will ultimately be classified as a Hitter. Or you can Drive Load but Pull the Club with Left Arm Centrifugal Power, hence you're a Swinger. I believe the former is actually quite common on Tour.

Any comments?

I don't believe hitting and swinging can be differentiated solely on a single element.

Per 1-F "This, alone, does not properly separate "Hitters" and "Swingers" because it is possible to "Swing" the Club with either Arm but only the Right Arm can actually "Hit" "

Per 10-19-0 "Hinge Action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging."

What properly differentiates Hitting and Swinging are in 6-H-0. Factors rather than a single factor properly separates them.

6-H-0-E "Associate the following with "Hitting""
6-H-0-F "Associate the following with "Swinging""

[YodasLuke]

I don't believe hitting and swinging can be differentiated solely on a single element.

Per 1-F "This, alone, does not properly separate "Hitters" and "Swingers" because it is possible to "Swing" the Club with either Arm but only the Right Arm can actually "Hit" "

Per 10-19-0 "Hinge Action does NOT differentiate Hitting and Swinging."

What properly differentiates Hitting and Swinging are in 6-H-0. Factors rather than a single factor properly separates them.

6-H-0-E "Associate the following with "Hitting""
6-H-0-F "Associate the following with "Swinging""

6-H-0 is a good place to spend about ten years.

[tongzilla]

I don't believe hitting and swinging can be differentiated solely on a single element.

What properly differentiates Hitting and Swinging are in 6-H-0. Factors rather than a single factor properly separates them.
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Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with you.

You can mix Swinging components/procedures with Hitting components/procedures -- some people call this 'Switting'. But you are either a Hitter or Swinger per my first post on this thread.

[comdpa]

Sorry, but I have to respectfully disagree with you.

You can mix Swinging components/procedures with Hitting components/procedures -- some people call this 'Switting'. But you are either a Hitter or Swinger per my first post on this thread.

No problems Leo...I was referring to the "pure" models.