Location of wrist cock hinge

[ChrisNZ]

Where is the hinge (not in the hinge action sense) between the club and the left arm - is it the left wrist, the number one pressure point, or (less likely I think) the number 3 pressure point?

Obviously the left wrist is where the cocking action actually occurs, but does the part of the handle in the left hand (or even both hands, but less likely) go down or up when this occurs (if that makes sense)?

Edit: what I actually mean is the pivot point I think.

Thanks,
Chris

[neil]

I think what you are asking about "hinging" of the left wrist is actually the cocking and uncocking of the left wrist.THE RIGHT WRIST DOES NOT COCK..It only bends or remains bent.The left wristcock is a vertical motion-put your left arm out straight in front of you with your palm vertical,raise your thumb,point your thumb at your face...by cocking your wrist.It is Power accumulator#2.If you have the book see 4-0 and 6-B-2-0.If not I would buy a copy .

[ChrisNZ]

Hi Neil - definitely own a copy of the book!

The issue isn't the plane of the cocking motion or the bend of the right wrist. It's the location of the pivot point for the club. The fulcrum is the correct term I think. Actually, now that I say that, I think there is a diagram in the book which answers my question - I'll check later.

Sorry for taking up thread space!

Chris

[neil]

Chris,we're here to learn and help ,if possible

[neil]

Hi Neil - definitely own a copy of the book!

The issue isn't the plane of the cocking motion or the bend of the right wrist. It's the location of the pivot point for the club. The fulcrum is the correct term I think. Actually, now that I say that, I think there is a diagram in the book which answers my question - I'll check later.

Sorry for taking up thread space!

Chris

Chris ,the left wrist is the fulcrum (form 3 lever) and is normally propelled by the hands i.e acc & PP's #2and/or #3

[hcw]

Where is the hinge (not in the hinge action sense) between the club and the left arm - is it the left wrist, the number one pressure point, or (less likely I think) the number 3 pressure point?

Obviously the left wrist is where the cocking action actually occurs, but does the part of the handle in the left hand (or even both hands, but less likely) go down or up when this occurs (if that makes sense)?

Edit: what I actually mean is the pivot point I think.

Thanks,
Chris

in tinkering around this is something i've noticed...grip a club and hold it out in front of you with you arms parallel to the floor so the clubhead is pointing to the ceiling...if you now move just your wrists so the clubhead moves back and forth toward and away from your body and then you turn/roll your forearms so the clubhead moves left and right, you will notice that there is a point where your hands meet that these motions seem to pivot around and that the clubhead and buttend of the club move in opposite directions...for me this seems to be PP#1...it seems to me if you know where this point is, you know where the clubhead is...

-hcw

[ChrisNZ]

This was deinitely the point I was getting at. As Neil pointed out, the fulcrum according to the book is the left wrist. But is the pivot point pp #1 as HCW suggests?

Chris

[KnighT]

in tinkering around this is something i've noticed...grip a club and hold it out in front of you with you arms parallel to the floor so the clubhead is pointing to the ceiling...if you now move just your wrists so the clubhead moves back and forth toward and away from your body and then you turn/roll your forearms so the clubhead moves left and right, you will notice that there is a point where your hands meet that these motions seem to pivot around and that the clubhead and buttend of the club move in opposite directions...for me this seems to be PP#1...it seems to me if you know where this point is, you know where the clubhead is...

-hcw

I just recently discovered this exact same motion of the golf club. It came as a result of the video where Yoda explains where a swinger loads the club at the top....video: "pressure point #3 where are you?" After watching it a bunch of times, then incubating for a few days I tried to feel the club load with only the right hand like Yoda does in the video. I tried to use gravity to let the club drop while loading the top of the club.

All I did was leave it loaded at the top, then turn my shoulders and hips down toward my aiming point and let it drop. I was not surprised when gravity pulled the club down, then momentum carried the club up above my head....with beautiful horizontal hinging. I didn't even try to manipulate the hinge action, I think it was that illusive force that I have never been able to find before....what do you guys call it again ? Oh yeah, centrifugal force. I was never able to use it before. As a result I spent a while hitting because I felt like I was doing it correctly, and realized I was swinging incorrectly.

I am now able to apply this same motion with my pressure points. I load the top of the club, but I maintain pressure point #2. Then I use power accumulator #2 to apply force to the bottom of the shaft while simultaneously using my right shoulder to direct force through pressure point #1 and #3 to the top of the shaft. This causes the butt end of the club, and the club head to move in opposite directions like you said. I think this is my left wrist uncocking, which generates more speed than I ever have created with a golf club. This really feels like the law of the flail, another thing that I never understood or applied properly.

Actually, this is a very simple motion. I see it as the exact same motion used to cast a fishing rod. Fising rod: left hand on the bottom, right hand on top. Left hand holds on to the strongest/thickest part of the rod for control. Right arm drives through and causes the tip of the rod to pass, or overtake the handle of the rod.

Feels like clubhead overtaking the hands. Feels like angular momentum. Feels great !