Left Pull & Throw Throw

[DavisMark]

Can a Swinger pull with the left hand and throw with the right hand simultaneously ?

[Andy R]

If I understand you correctly, per 10-19-0, the Lag Loading procedure for acceleration is either radial or longitudinal - you can't do both at the same time. So you're either driving the one (10-19-A) or dragging the other (10-19-C).

So either Axe Handle (Right Hand Throw) or Rope Handle (Swinger's Pull), but both cannot be applied at the same time.

[DavisMark]

Thank you for your response Andy R...

After watching the videos with Yoda and Jeff Hull, both discuss throwing the club down the target line. Yoda says you must throw the club down the target line, but he doesn't say which hand or arm does the "throw". Watching the video, it seems as if Jeff Hull is "throwing" the club, but with his left hand in a pulling action.

Also, whether I throw or pull, don't I roll either way to create angular acceleration ?

Maybe the problem is with the semantics of language.

Are there any advantages comparing the Axe vs. the Rope ??? It seem that the Axe delivers more power than the Rope, but it is harder to time the roll.

[Andy R]

It all can be very confusing, for sure, and I have limited experience, but I can comment on a few things by basically quoting TGM.

Angular momentum can be explained this way. American football kickers in the old days used to kick "straight on" and could only kick about 30 yards or so. But when soccer kickers came on the scene, with their angled line of approach, and 'roundhoused' the ball, distances doubled. So, Angular Momentum is an aspect of every golf swing by virtue of the clubs approach to the ball.

With regard to a power advantage between Axe or Rope, I'm pretty sure Full Power can be achieved with either procedure.

Thats about as much as I would be comfortable commenting on. lol I'll let the experts comment on the other stuff.

[6bmike]

. American football kickers in the old days used to kick "straight on" and could only kick about 30 yards or so.

Tom Dempsy of the New Orleans Staints kicked a 63 yd field Goal- using the 'straight on' old way against the Detroit Lions in 1970. It is still the record. Lou 'The Toe' Groza of the Cleveland Browns kicked many 50+ FGs but was deadly from the short distances- more so then the most pro kickers today. 1600+ career points- the mosty points scored by a 'Brown.' NY Giant Pat Smmerall was a killer from 40 yds out. One of the last 'straight on kickers -Mark Moseley's of the Redskins- played after a soccer style kicker Charlie Gogolak of Hungary. His 45+ field goals made the 'skins' a pain in the butt to most NFL teams in his conference. Even I kicked FGs over 40 yds in HS 'straight on.'

[Andy R]

...Even I kicked FGs over 40 yds in HS 'straight on.'

If you only knew then what you know now!

One thought provoking fact, Groza made only 58% of his field-goal attempts; today's best kickers make nearly 80% of their attempts. Thanks to Mr. Kelly, I know that an angular approach is a more efficient application of power, but it's the added accuracy thats really interesting. Do you think the accuracy is due to the relative location of the soccer style knee, enabling steady acceleration through impact with a low point being after the ball?

By the way, sorry if I'm getting a bit off topic, DavisMark - my apologies.