Layback

[dlam]

I am getting confused with some terms layback and laid off.
Layback, I think refers to clubface position with hinging mechanism.
Laid off, I think is a popular term to describe being "below the plane"
Is layback a term Homer coined? I can't find that term in any other golf instruction text.

[Yoda]

I am getting confused with some terms layback and laid off.
Layback, I think refers to clubface position with hinging mechanism.
Laid off, I think is a popular term to describe being "below the plane"
Is layback a term Homer coined? I can't find that term in any other golf instruction text.

dlam,

Layback refers to the Clubface.

Laid-off refers to the Clubshaft.

Typically, Layback refers to a Clubface that remains Square to the Target Line and gradually 'lays back' through the Impact Interval.

As you have suggested, Laid-off refers to a Clubshaft that 'points' below the Plane of Motion established by the player during the Backstroke.

As for your question regarding the term "Layback" . . .

I've been with this so long I hadn't realized it, but yes, the term "Layback" is a Homer Kelley Original. He used "dictionary English" to describe a very important and common Clubface condition that never before had been labeled.

Thank you, Mr. Kelley.

There are those TGM detractors who state that the player cannot use his Left Wrist to control the Clubface through Impact (Hinge Action concept). Therefore, according to these fine folks, a player cannot deliberately produce Layback and its desired Ball Behavior. Or, for that matter, any alternative alignment and Ball Behavior.

That's not "scientific" . . .

That's stupid.