Takeaways

[lagster]

The Right Forearm Pickup, and The Shoulder Turn Takeaway have been discussed on this forum. Let's discuss other options(Variations) for the takeaway that are acceptable, and also those that are less acceptable.

[Delaware Golf]

The Right Forearm Pickup, and The Shoulder Turn Takeaway have been discussed on this forum. Let's discuss other options(Variations) for the takeaway that are acceptable, and also those that are less acceptable.

Standard Hip Action is another.....it produces a double shift plane angle....For swinging, it will produce a Top Arc and Angled Delivery Path...if I was a lower body swinger on the down swing, I would use this takeaway.

What takes you up brings you down...


DG

[annikan skywalker]

Pivot - Controlled
1. Standard - Full Pivot Takeaway All Components - Bobby Jones
2. Right Hip Turn Takeaway - "TGM Old School - Tommy "
3. Shoulder Turn Takeaway w/Standard Hip Action - Bobby Clampett
4. Shoulder Turn Takeaway w/ Delayed Hip Action - Nick Price
Hand Controlled
5. Right Forearm Takeaway - "TGM Magic"
6. Right Forearm Takeaway with the Start up "swivel" of Standard Wrist Action - "TGM Magic w/Archie Swivel"
7. Independent Left Arm "Sweeping" from the Shoulder With Zero Wrist Action - Colin Montgomery
8. Independent Wrist/Hand Takeaway - Ray Floyd
9. Single Wrist Action with a Hinge Action substituting for Wrist Action - Jesper Parnevik
10. On Plane - Hands Only - Grant Waite

Anymore?

Bagger your re-sizing assistance would be warmly welcomed

[Yoda]

Standard Hip Action is another.....it produces a double shift plane angle....For swinging, it will produce a Top Arc and Angled Delivery Path...if I was a lower body swinger on the down swing, I would use this takeaway.

What takes you up brings you down...


DG

Thanks, DG. In the Standard Hip Action, the Hips lead the Shoulders both back and down. Homer Kelley labeled this procedure Standard because it has been used and recommended by golfers literally for at least two centuries. And then along came...

The Golfing Machine®.

[hcw]

What takes you up brings you down...


DG

although not a different take away...i've been working on feeling the RFT dragging back the right hand which drags the left hand which drags the left arm->left shoulder->left hip->left knee->left heel...and then having the last things going up start dragging the whole thing back down by getting a bent left knee over a flat left foot->left shoulder->left arm->left hand->...well, you get the idea...

-hcw

[annikan skywalker]

I forgot..You don't hit it in the Takeaway do ya?

[Delaware Golf]

Pivot - Contrlled
1. Standard - Full Pivot Takeaway All Components - Bobby Jones
2. Right Hip Turn Takeaway - "TGM Old School - Tommy "

If "TGM Old School - Tommy".....is refering to Tom Tomasello...it's wrong....I have him on cassettee tape saying Right Forearm Takeaway and with Delayed Hip-Action NOT STANDARD HIP ACTION.

Backstroke Sequence - Right Forearm, Shoulders, Shoulders Turning the HIPS.

Downstroke Sequence - Right Forearm start down, On plane Right Shoulder (and hip slide), Left Hip Rotation.

Re-Cap downstroke - Right Forearm, Shoulders, Hips.


The sequence in the Australia tape where Tomasello says...the first move is to withdrawl the right hip....he's isolating a pivot component...he wants you to feel the full motion of the right hip turning out of the way per 12-3-0-24 (clearing right hip)...withdrawling the right hip in the backstroke is not the first motion to start the backstroke...that's a misinterpretation. Refer to the first sentence in 6-P-0....Tommy was big on isolating components....that goes for standard wrist action with the 1 to 2 move in the backstoke...that little move is component isolation.

Tomasello taught delayed-hip action.

DG

[annikan skywalker]

You're right DG... but,PERHAPS before you went to him ... According to EC, JP, TF, CW, RH,RJ, and RP(8 differnt students that I have personally worked with..SAID he taught them to withdraw the right hip....fold the right arm ....whip the right arm...zip the left hip....which is ...."I'm not allowed to say it!" I believe Tommy made more tapes than the Australian Tapes ...he made a whole lotta tapes ...perhaps different tapes for different folks, different schools, different private lessons??? Perhaps he was smart enough to adjust his information to what the "student " needed...which is the "essence of education"

This post is about .."TAKEAWAYS"...NOT THE Takeaway!!!]

[Delaware Golf]

You're right DG... but,PERHAPS before you went to him ... According to EC, JP, TF, CW, RH,RJ, and RP(8 differnt students that I have personally worked with..SAID he taught them to withdraw the right hip....fold the right arm ....whip the right arm...zip the left hip....which is ...."I'm not allowed to say it!" I believe Tommy made more tapes than the Australian Tapes ...he made a whole lotta tapes ...perhaps different tapes for different folks, different schools, different private lessons??? Perhaps he was smart enough to adjust his information to what the "student " needed...which is the "essence of education"

This post is about .."TAKEAWAYS"...NOT THE Takeaway!!!]

I believe withdrawling the right hip first is a misinterpretation...it would put the golfer on a elbow plane angle...the Australia tape is from 1989 and Tommy is clearly on a turned shoulder plane angle and Top Arc and Straight Line Delivery Path...to achieve that one must start with Right Forearm Takeaway.

My guess is the golfers you mentioned above were already swinging on a elbow plane angle before studying with Tomasello.

DG

[annikan skywalker]

Fair Enough....DG

So what do ya think of of Grant Waite,Bobby C, BobbyJ, and Ole Monty??? Let's figure out how these guys did it without using the recommended RFT