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Old 11-29-2007, 01:38 PM
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How many of you have tried 10-14-D? The book says... "This is extremely useful for all short Strokes."
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Old 12-17-2007, 11:11 PM
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Fresh Start On the Reverse Hip Turn
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How many of you have tried 10-14-D? The book says... "This is extremely useful for all short Strokes."
I have corrected a typo in the original post. This is an important variation, one used by many of the world's best, including Lee Trevino. Let's start again!
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Old 12-18-2007, 01:32 AM
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I have corrected a typo in the original post. This is an important variation, one used by many of the world's best, including Lee Trevino. Let's start again!

Are we talking "Missing Piece" here?
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Old 12-18-2007, 01:26 PM
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Differentiating the Reverse Hip Turn
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Are we talking "Missing Piece" here?
The Reverse Hip Turn is essentially a lateral Hip Slide that tranfers the weight to the Left Foot during the Backstroke. This certainly is a major feature of the "Missing Piece" as described by V.J. Trolio in his book The Final Missing Piece of Ben Hogan's Secret Puzzle.

However, V.J. describes the first part of the Hogan Backstroke as a "bump" (a slight lateral Hip Shift) to the right (away from the target). This typically would not be the case in a pure Reverse Hip Turn, particularly when employed with the Short Shots (its normal use).

By the way, the Lee Trevino application was restricted to short Pitch Shots or other specialty shots (such as buried Bunker Shots or high-spin Punch Shots). He did not use the Reverse Hip Turn as part of his normal Stroke Pattern.
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:19 PM
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Adjusted Address
"As a substitute for Impact Fix Address, it ecourages moving into Impact Position habitually with all Strokes and discourages Address Wrist Condition (B/L/V) tendencies during Impact." 10-14-D.

So, this would before useful to the player who starts at Adjusted Address? Would it then effectively be the same, bodywise, as starting at Impact Fix Address and not shifting the weight to the right at Start Up?

How does this help to discourage Address Wrist Conditions? Is the theory that since the body is in Impact Position that the hands will be likely to follow suit?
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Old 12-18-2007, 02:30 PM
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Look at the pictures and description under 10-14-D, and try some short shots. The dynamics of this are a little different than just starting there and staying there. I think Mr. Kelley says something like..."It is easier to move into a position than to hold a position." This may apply here.
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