finding your first wobble point

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Old 05-16-2006, 06:14 PM
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finding your first wobble point
mr.kelly always mentions finding your first wobble point and correcting it before moving on.if you are looking for a way to find this wobble if you have any,is to drill this.get setup to hit a shot and now make you swing in slow motion.i am talking real slow like you are watching a video frame by frame.
what will this show you.first you will see that the golf swing is a hand controlled pivot.you will feel lag loading and lag thrust doing this drill.concentrate on #3 while you are doing this.also from the top work on the start down waggle in slow motion.it is a great drill for devoloping feel.
one more thing for you guys to try is to do the same slow motion drill with your putter.remember to look look to develop your feel.hope this helps you guys like it has helped me
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:40 PM
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John,

Have you done this drill before working with LB? Do you still do this drill on occasion?

This could be a daily exercise. Slow motion swings. I'm sure a few will do if performed on a regular basis. I've read about many simple drills such as this, and, if a handful were written down and practiced daily , eventually, the gains may be substantial.

VJ Trolio would certainly approve.

Maybe it's similar to learning anything else. As learning piano, daily drills, drills and drills, scales and arpeggios’ and before ya know it, that Beethoven Sonata was pretty easy.

I’ll try it.
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:59 PM
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Hogan used to do it lots I think....

This is a good topic.....you need to be able to diagnose what has gone wrong when it does....and fast.....cause it can go quickly....regardless of what you know, or how good you were hittin it yesterday...

I like to start at setup.....adjust that first always. Then 3 Imparatives....

I try not to get into everything else unless neccessary....keep 3 Imp. in mind....

Then pay attention to nothing when you're actually executing....Clear Keys help me with conscious thought.

Great topic...

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John....haven't heard from u in a while....how's she goin? How you hittin em? What are u working on?

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Originally Posted by Daryl

John,

Have you done this drill before working with LB?
John has been for many years the student of Rob Noel, GSEM, a.k.a. Hunter on this site. We've never worked on this drill together (or anything else for that matter). Through Rob, we have become friends -- -- and he told me tonight he got this 'first wobble' idea from watching Ben Hogan go through his 'slo-mo' swings on the Coleman Estate Video (see The Gallery).

Thanks, John, for this great idea. Harvey Pennick was a big fan of slow motion swings, as was another mentor of mine, Paul Bertholy. Not to mention, of course...

Homer Kelley.
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:39 AM
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thanks guys for the support.i have been incubating for the last 3 weeks.the egg finally cracked,and everything is starting to pour out.i have been working on my stroke pattern throughout drive to putt.trying to make them the same.i have been working on my start down waggle with both drive and putt using this slow motion drill.i am getting ready to put it too a real test i am playing 15 of the next 18 weeks.hopefully everyone will get to check it out on t.v. in the weeks to come.like lynn and i were talking tonight,i have emptied the tank on the practice tee and now i am going to just go play golf.i will be putting up daily post on what is going on with myself and the tour.stayed tuned and if anyone has any questions fire away.let me know what you guys would like to talk about and hopefully i can help.thanks go out to rob noel and to lynn blake for all there support and knowledge.i have learned more in the past 5 months than the last 35 years.keep up the great work guys and talk to you friday
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Was watching the Colin Neeman (Name ?? ) video last night and saw Yoda teach the start up with a massive pause (10 seconds), in position to allow the computer to compute...seems like a great idea, especially with slo-mo swings.

After all if we can't do it slow what chance do we have when going at 100mph+!!
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by john riegger
thanks guys for the support.i have been incubating for the last 3 weeks.the egg finally cracked,and everything is starting to pour out.i have been working on my stroke pattern throughout drive to putt.trying to make them the same.i have been working on my start down waggle with both drive and putt using this slow motion drill.i am getting ready to put it too a real test i am playing 15 of the next 18 weeks.hopefully everyone will get to check it out on t.v. in the weeks to come.like lynn and i were talking tonight,i have emptied the tank on the practice tee and now i am going to just go play golf.i will be putting up daily post on what is going on with myself and the tour.stayed tuned and if anyone has any questions fire away.let me know what you guys would like to talk about and hopefully i can help.thanks go out to rob noel and to lynn blake for all there support and knowledge.i have learned more in the past 5 months than the last 35 years.keep up the great work guys and talk to you friday
Best of luck for you John.
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i am getting ready to put it too a real test i am playing 15 of the next 18 weeks.
John,

That is a very ambitious schedule. Beside posting here, what do you do to pace yourself so you remain sharp both physically and mentally.
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:37 PM
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i pace myself by putting in all the hard work while i am at home.both on my body and on the range.i was out for almost 2 years due to 2 surgeries so i have had to get my body back in playing shape.mentally i have been ready it just takes time to get back into tournament shape.the scoring has been slow going but i have been very patient,because i am very mechanically sound with my swing.i just need to play and play alot so it breaks through.that was a tentative schedule and could change at any time.i promise you that i will not play myself to tired to play my best.right now i am going to focus on just playing golf and due periodic alignment checkups.thanks for your questions
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Old 05-17-2006, 12:48 PM
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Maybe we'll catch up with you at the Milwaukee event?
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