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10-02-2006, 10:32 AM
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Describe the MOTION and ALIGNMENTS of the RIGHT ARM, ELBOW, WRIST, HAND, and FINGERS for---
1. Right Forearm Pickup Takeaway
a. Sweep Loading
b. Random Loading
c. Snap Loading
d. Float Loading
2. Shoulder Turn Takeaway
3. Hitting
4. Swinging(Conventional and/or Tomasello Procedure)
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10-02-2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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Describe the MOTION and ALIGNMENTS of the RIGHT ARM, ELBOW, WRIST, HAND, and FINGERS for---
1. Right Forearm Pickup Takeaway
a. Sweep Loading
b. Random Loading
c. Snap Loading
d. Float Loading
2. Shoulder Turn Takeaway
3. Hitting
4. Swinging(Conventional and/or Tomasello Procedure)
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I would say the proper place to start this discussion would be in 10-22-0 . .. Though the Action is infinite in variety, all fall into three simple alternatives - as sharply as possible, as gradually as possible, and somewhere in between - noting the approximate fraction of the full arc.
And here's another important consideration . . . 7-22 . . . The amount of Loading can be controlled by either the speed of the entire motion, or by the sharpness of the specific procedure or both.
I think this is also HUGE . . . The Inertia of the Clubhead is magnified or attenuated by speed, changes in direction, etc. This adjusted Clubhead weight (Clubhead Lag 6-C and 7-19) must neither collapse nor derange the structure of the Power Package - nor leave all the Accumulators empty.
This is very important in the fact that overaccleration is the menance that stalks all lag and drag. So you must be sure that the STRUCTURE can support the LOAD you put on it. So the statement in red is HUGE. If Lag is the secret . . .how do you keep from throwing must be pretty dawggone important too. So you can OVERLOAD the structure of the power package OR you can apply too much load too early (via speed or sharpness) and not be able to sustain it. Then you "dump" it and leave the accumulators empty.
I would say that the differences in the Right Forearm Takeaways that you listed are as referenced above . . . with Full Sweep the forearm moves SLOWLY and at an "obtuse" angle and as a result the #2 accumulator is not loaded as quickly. This gets jacked up notches as you progress by cocking the Right Elbow and thus the Left Wrist either FASTER or SHARPER.
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Last edited by 12 piece bucket : 10-02-2006 at 11:05 PM.
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10-03-2006, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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I would say the proper place to start this discussion would be in 10-22-0 . .. Though the Action is infinite in variety, all fall into three simple alternatives - as sharply as possible, as gradually as possible, and somewhere in between - noting the approximate fraction of the full arc.
And here's another important consideration . . . 7-22 . . . The amount of Loading can be controlled by either the speed of the entire motion, or by the sharpness of the specific procedure or both.
I think this is also HUGE . . . The Inertia of the Clubhead is magnified or attenuated by speed, changes in direction, etc. This adjusted Clubhead weight (Clubhead Lag 6-C and 7-19) must neither collapse nor derange the structure of the Power Package - nor leave all the Accumulators empty.
This is very important in the fact that overaccleration is the menance that stalks all lag and drag. So you must be sure that the STRUCTURE can support the LOAD you put on it. So the statement in red is HUGE. If Lag is the secret . . .how do you keep from throwing must be pretty dawggone important too. So you can OVERLOAD the structure of the power package OR you can apply too much load too early (via speed or sharpness) and not be able to sustain it. Then you "dump" it and leave the accumulators empty.
I would say that the differences in the Right Forearm Takeaways that you listed are as referenced above . . . with Full Sweep the forearm moves SLOWLY and at an "obtuse" angle and as a result the #2 accumulator is not loaded as quickly. This gets jacked up notches as you progress by cocking the Right Elbow and thus the Left Wrist either FASTER or SHARPER.
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Good information Mr. 12 Piece!!!
Right Forearm Pickup-- Do you believe the RIGHT FOREARM via THE RIGHT ELBOW... cocks VERTICALLY UP, keeping the same relationship to the right hip as at Address? That is... if the Pivot were zeroed out, the right arm would cock vertically UP BY USING THE ELBOW(BICEPS)and DELTOID to raise the arm. This is the motion that provides the UPWARD DEMINSION?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Last edited by lagster : 10-03-2006 at 12:09 AM.
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10-03-2006, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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Good information Mr. 12 Piece!!!
Right Forearm Pickup-- Do you believe the RIGHT FOREARM via THE RIGHT ELBOW... cocks VERTICALLY UP, keeping the same relationship to the right hip as at Address? That is... if the Pivot were zeroed out, the right arm would cock vertically UP BY USING THE ELBOW(BICEPS)and DELTOID to raise the arm... your thumb would be across from your right ear. This is the motion that provides the UPWARD DEMINSION?
WHAT DO YOU THINK?
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I don't know . . . I have a theory though. The Right Arm is according to the book ALWAYS striving to be STRAIGHT. So I think that if you just get in your golf posture with no club and just take your right pointer fanger and point it up-plane to your right . . . THAT is where you right arm WANTS to go . .. but it can't because it is attached to the left arm.
Maybe the Right Forearm Pickup is such a biggie so that people take it up via the arm and not by cocking the right wrist?
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10-04-2006, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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I don't know . . . I have a theory though. The Right Arm is according to the book ALWAYS striving to be STRAIGHT. So I think that if you just get in your golf posture with no club and just take your right pointer fanger and point it up-plane to your right . . . THAT is where you right arm WANTS to go . .. but it can't because it is attached to the left arm.
Maybe the Right Forearm Pickup is such a biggie so that people take it up via the arm and not by cocking the right wrist?
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I think the action I described would be more for a Hitting Procedure working up the Turned shoulder Plane. The Right Wrist stays in it's Fix alignment, and the Right Elbow cocks UP.
If setting up with high hands, and working up the Turned Shoulder Plane the feeling will be of nearly straight UP Vertically with the Right Arm. The Arm takes it UP, and the backswing Pivot takes it Back and IN.
What do you think?
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10-04-2006, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lagster
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I think the action I described would be more for a Hitting Procedure working up the Turned shoulder Plane. The Right Wrist stays in it's Fix alignment, and the Right Elbow cocks UP.
If setting up with high hands, and working up the Turned Shoulder Plane the feeling will be of nearly straight UP Vertically with the Right Arm. The Arm takes it UP, and the backswing Pivot takes it Back and IN.
What do you think?
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Sir yes sir! What do you think about the differences that may result from cocking it SHARPER?
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