Waist Bend Knee Bend and Axis Tilt
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11-27-2006, 10:47 PM
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Waist Bend Knee Bend and Axis Tilt
What is the relationship of Waist Bend and Knee Bend to Axis Tilt?
Who needs more Waist Bend and Knee Bend? Who needs less?
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11-28-2006, 02:28 AM
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I like more knee bend and less bent over personally. (for my Stroke)
I know there are Paterns where I am better off with less and/or more (respectively) tho.
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11-28-2006, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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What is the relationship of Waist Bend and Knee Bend to Axis Tilt?
Who needs more Waist Bend and Knee Bend? Who needs less?
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Holla, Bucket
It is hard to say since it all depends on the persons physical abilities.
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11-28-2006, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Amen Corner
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Holla, Bucket
It is hard to say since it all depends on the persons physical abilities.
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Holla back! . . . I'm with you part of the way on this HOWEVER . . . there is a more geometrical/mechanical relationship . . . . read this . . . I'm just not quite sure how it all works . . .
7-16 KNEE ACTION Knee Actionj is classified on the basis of (1) combinations of bent and straight conditions and (2) the Reference Points selected at which these combinations occur. The combination and the Reference Points selected will determine the slanting of the Hips during the Pivot. The slant is up in the direction of a straightened Knee. The slant of the Hips affects the degree of Hip Turn. Actually, the primary function of Knee Action – as with Waist Bend – is to maintain a motionless head during the Stroke.
The proper amount of Knee Bend is determined at Impact Fix (7- by the distance the Hips must move to allow the Right Forearm to point at the selected Plane Line per 2-J-3 and 7-3. The amount of Bend will also determine the amount of Backstroke Turn and Downstroke Slide. The amount of Bend will also determine the amount of Backstroke Turn and Downstroke Slide. The less Bend, the more the Pivot and Hip Slide will be restricted in both directions and the more upright the Plane tends to be.
If the straightened Knee is allowed to lock “beyond center” the subsequent unlocking is disruptive.
The rotated Knee should not sag into an extreme position. That weakens the strong in-line structure of the normal knee and ankle alignment.
When the Address or Fix Knee Bend of either Knee is maintained throughout the Stroke, it feels and acts like the Body has a solid anchor to the ground and therefore so designated. The “Anchor” designation still allows the Knees to rotate through the Sit-Down Position as the Strokes lengthen. So, seldom does Impact occur during the true Sit-Down Position.
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11-28-2006, 02:31 PM
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I beleive it relates to the desired #3Accumulator Angle, right forearm alignment, and selected plane angle...other than that I'll need to smoke more "REEFER" 
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11-28-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
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I beleive it relates to the desired #3Accumulator Angle, right forearm alignment, and selected plane angle...other than that I'll need to smoke more "REEFER"
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Ahh the Master of Chapter 10 awakes . . . from a drug induced sleep . . . (what is it with you and the reefer madness). Agree on all of the above . . .
How does Waistbend relate to Axis Tilt?
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11-29-2006, 06:02 AM
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Sorry, Bucket
My answer was to the question:
Who needs more Waist Bend and Knee Bend? Who needs less?[/quote]
Depending on how the persons bodysize looks like you will have different results after impactfix is obtained.
Regarding your first question, I`ll be back.
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12-04-2006, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
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What is the relationship of Waist Bend and Knee Bend to Axis Tilt?
Who needs more Waist Bend and Knee Bend? Who needs less?
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Ultimately it is impact fix and balance that determine the relationships. Getting the flying wedges in place to provide the most balanced and most 'support' for impact.
Too much waist bend often leads to a balance problem and/or 'standing up' through impact.
Let impact fix be the guide. The more balanced you can be at impact fix the better 
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12-04-2006, 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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Ultimately it is impact fix and balance that determine the relationships. Getting the flying wedges in place to provide the most balanced and most 'support' for impact.
Too much waist bend often leads to a balance problem and/or 'standing up' through impact.
Let impact fix be the guide. The more balanced you can be at impact fix the better
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Ed . . . How about this my bruva . . . go to fix with very LITTLE WAIST BEND . . . Right Shoulder ain't as far DOWN PLANE . . . but if you increase the Waistbend the Right Shoulder is down plane more AND there is more #1 left and hence MORE RIGHT ARM.
THIS
VS.
THIS
Thoughts?
Holla back.
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12-04-2006, 07:36 PM
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I like those last 2 posts....good stuff yall.
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So....(and this is a great comparison)....why did Trevino bend over more vs. Jack's posture?
I find with certain patterns this is one of the things I need to adjust....
Some variables I think: clubface control (err accomodating/optomizing it), Balance, Release Point (in a lot of ways is a product of the clubface IMO)...
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