Tracing and Covering: what's the difference?
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10-06-2007, 06:38 PM
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Tracing and Covering: what's the difference?
in TGM lingo is "tracing" to be thought in terms of drawing a line Parallel?
I associate tracing with actually "covering" (drawing over tracing paper the original marks to reproduce exactly the lines) which I know is to be distinguished in TGM...(?)
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10-06-2007, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by woodandcoal
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in TGM lingo is "tracing" to be thought in terms of drawing a line Parallel?
I associate tracing with actually "covering" (drawing over tracing paper the original marks to reproduce exactly the lines) which I know is to be distinguished in TGM...(?)
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Tracing -- "points at" the plane line, like a light beam. PP#3 is the flashlight to trace the line with.
Cover- the clubhead covers or moves over an alternative VISUAL delivery line, the curved arc of approach or the straight line angle of approach.
They do the same thing. They both monitor the clubhead into impact.
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10-07-2007, 05:08 PM
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Clubshafts...Not Light Sabres
Originally Posted by woodandcoal
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I associate tracing with actually "covering" (drawing over tracing paper the original marks to reproduce exactly the lines) which I know is to be distinguished in TGM...(?)
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Your concept is correct, woodandcoal.
If the Clubshaft was a laser beam, then the orbiting (and tracing) Sweetspot would, in fact, simultaneously 'point at' and cover the Plane Line. Consequently, there would be no Arc of Approach (to the Plane Line) and hence no curved 'Visual Equivalent'. Then, the only available reference line for 'On Plane' Clubhead Delivery would be the Straight Plane Line itself.
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The Clubshaft is not a laser beam. Its length is finite, and it cannot grow longer during the Backstroke or shorter during the Downstroke. Therefore, the orbiting Sweetspot can only 'point at' the Straight Plane Line as it 'covers' its own true curved Path.
Now the golfer has available two Delivery Lines: the true geometric Plane Line (to 'point at') and its Visual Equivalent, the curved Arc of Approach (to 'cover').
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10-07-2007, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda
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Your concept is correct, woodandcoal.
If the Clubshaft was a laser beam, then the orbiting (and tracing) Sweetspot would, in fact, simultaneously 'point at' and cover the Plane Line. Consequently, there would be no Arc of Approach (to the Plane Line) and hence no curved 'Visual Equivalent'. Then, the only available reference line for 'On Plane' Clubhead Delivery would be the Straight Plane Line itself.
But...
The Clubshaft is not a laser beam. Its length is finite, and it cannot grow longer during the Backstroke or shorter during the Downstroke. Therefore, the orbiting Sweetspot can only 'point at' the Straight Plane Line as it 'covers' its own true curved Path.
Now the golfer has available two Delivery Lines: the true geometric Plane Line and its Visual Equivalent, the curved Arc of Approach.
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woodandcoal and others, you all just leap frogged ahead of the class. This concept of "pointing at the Plane Line" -Tracing and "covering its own true curved Path" - Covering, is a concept that has taken some of us years to 'get.' In fact I knew several highly TGM educated friends that scratched their heads over this for a long time before the bulb lit bright.
And now it looks so easy to understand.
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10-07-2007, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
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In fact I knew several highly TGM educated friends that scratched their heads over this for a long time before the bulb lit bright.
And now it looks so easy to understand.
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I scrubbed the TGM sites years before we started this one and there weren't any clues. I hope y'all appreciate the straight forward explanations to tough concepts.
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10-08-2007, 10:06 PM
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YODA thank you!
really helping me to get it, I'm going over this carefully...and again...
Amen Corner also started a thread on the Alternate Target Line which has been a great thread so far related
thanks again - and thanks Mike for your reply to my original post
I'm blown away by you guys
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10-09-2007, 12:03 AM
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covering and tracing
Originally Posted by woodandcoal
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YODA thank you!
really helping me to get it, I'm going over this carefully...and again...
Amen Corner also started a thread on the Alternate Target Line which has been a great thread so far related
thanks again - and thanks Mike for your reply to my original post
I'm blown away by you guys
woodandcoal
incubating...
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Hey wood,
Yoda made a very important point about the finite length of the club. Given that information, I'll tell you one of the ways that I explain this concept to my students.
Visual equivalents are exactly as stated. They are the player's VISUAL perspectives of on plane motions.
If you're facing the face of a clock, you see the second hand moving in a circle. If you're viewing the clock from the side, you see the second hand moving in a straight line. So, is it moving in a circle or on a straight line? Yes and yes, depending on perspective.
Your #3 pressure point is tracing the straight baseline of the plane. But, your eyes are not in your #3pp. Your eyes are slightly above the plane (the clock) on which the club travels. So, the #3pp feels the straight line and the eyes see the clubhead moving in a curve.
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10-09-2007, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke
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Hey wood,
Yoda made a very important point about the finite length of the club. Given that information, I'll tell you one of the ways that I explain this concept to my students.
Visual equivalents are exactly as stated. They are the player's VISUAL perspectives of on plane motions.
If you're facing the face of a clock, you see the second hand moving in a circle. If you're viewing the clock from the side, you see the second hand moving in a straight line. So, is it moving in a circle or on a straight line? Yes and yes, depending on perspective.
Your #3 pressure point is tracing the straight baseline of the plane. But, your eyes are not in your #3pp. Your eyes are slightly above the plane (the clock) on which the club travels. So, the #3pp feels the straight line and the eyes see the clubhead moving in a curve.
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