"Mythbusting" Delivery Paths
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12-31-2007, 06:10 PM
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Lynn Blake Certified Instructor
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"Mythbusting" Delivery Paths
I caught a bit of the "Mythbusters" TV show the other day and it had me wondering if they were right about power application.
The 'myth' they were testing was if a person could swing on a swing set 360 degrees under their own power, to which the answer is no. In the usual fashion of the show, they tested what kind of force/angle it would take to do it, with a standard swingset/chain - by strapping a rocket onto the 'dummy' in the swing (no bucket, do not do this to Mike).
By attaching the rocket at a 40 degree angle, they achieved fully straight chains around the 360.
What, if any, application to aiming points and delivery paths does this have?
For 'full power' do we need that same 40 degree applicaiton of force? (max radius, constant extensor action)
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12-31-2007, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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I caught a bit of the "Mythbusters" TV show the other day and it had me wondering if they were right about power application.
The 'myth' they were testing was if a person could swing on a swing set 360 degrees under their own power, to which the answer is no. In the usual fashion of the show, they tested what kind of force/angle it would take to do it, with a standard swingset/chain - by strapping a rocket onto the 'dummy' in the swing (no bucket, do not do this to Mike).
By attaching the rocket at a 40 degree angle, they achieved fully straight chains around the 360.
What, if any, application to aiming points and delivery paths does this have?
For 'full power' do we need that same 40 degree applicaiton of force? (max radius, constant extensor action)
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Mike's not allowed in places where swing sets stand due to . . . well . . . I'd rather not go there.
Anyhoooo . . . . wonder if there is any relation to the plane angle???
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12-31-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by EdZ
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I caught a bit of the "Mythbusters" TV show the other day and it had me wondering if they were right about power application.
The 'myth' they were testing was if a person could swing on a swing set 360 degrees under their own power, to which the answer is no. In the usual fashion of the show, they tested what kind of force/angle it would take to do it, with a standard swingset/chain - by strapping a rocket onto the 'dummy' in the swing (no bucket, do not do this to Mike).
By attaching the rocket at a 40 degree angle, they achieved fully straight chains around the 360.
What, if any, application to aiming points and delivery paths does this have?
For 'full power' do we need that same 40 degree applicaiton of force? (max radius, constant extensor action)
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I think that if the amount of thrust were sufficient, the chains would remain straight at lesser angles.
Our problem is different. We are applying a force to the Primary lever and Throwout Action accelerates the secondary lever. Power Regulation, 2-M-2.
I’m not sure where the 40 degree relationship in the swing would be, but I think it would apply to the Handle (left arm). Then, does that mean that Straight Line Delivery Path requires less thrust than Circle Path Deliveries to apply the same force?
Last edited by Daryl : 12-31-2007 at 10:42 PM.
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01-01-2008, 01:21 AM
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Maybe LBG could approach Mythbusters with some good golfing efforts as it would be a perfect place to 'test' what moves what where. It would make great TV 
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01-06-2008, 01:49 PM
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Lynn Blake Certified Instructor
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Originally Posted by Daryl
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I think that if the amount of thrust were sufficient, the chains would remain straight at lesser angles.
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Given a solid chain/bar, yes, but with a chain link, there needs to be extensor action force/direction to keep the chains straight.
They did test multiple angles.
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