#3 Location

[lagster]

I would like to hear some discussion of where the #3 Pressure Point is located in relation to the Plane Line during the 10-20-E "Palm up to the Plane" position, as compared to where it would, or should be for(usually) a Hitter, who is probably using Single Wrist Action and Right Arm Throw.

[Yoda]

I would like to hear some discussion of where the #3 Pressure Point is located in relation to the Plane Line during the 10-20-E "Palm up to the Plane" position, as compared to where it would, or should be for(usually) a Hitter, who is probably using Single Wrist Action and Right Arm Throw.

At the Swinger's End Backstroke, the #3 pressure Point has rotated to the top of the Shaft and against the first knuckle -- the equivalent of a Weak Single Action Grip (10-2-A). It remains there at least until Release and possibly through Impact (not mechanically the ideal, but not disastrous either since Centrifugal Force, not Muscular Effort, is driving the Club).

The Hitter should stop at the Top of the Line Delivery Path. In so doing, his #3 Pressure Point never varies: It remains against the back of the Shaft and in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger.

The Plane Line itself has no effect on the #3 Pressure Point Location of either Swinger or Hitter. Except, of course, that the #3 Pressure Point -- or any alternative Pressure Point assigned the Clubhead Lag -- must always be driven unfailingly toward the Line (1-L #10).

[12 piece bucket]

At the Swinger's End Backstroke, the #3 pressure Point has rotated to the top of the Shaft and against the first knuckle -- the equivalent of a Weak Single Action Grip (10-2-A). It remains there at least until Release and possibly through Impact (not mechanically the ideal, but not disastrous either since Centrifugal Force, not Muscular Effort, is driving the Club).

The Hitter should stop at the Top of the Line Delivery Path. In so doing, his #3 Pressure Point never varies: It remains against the back of the Shaft and in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger.

The Plane Line itself has no effect on the #3 Pressure Point Location of either Swinger or Hitter. Except, of course, that the #3 Pressure Point -- or any alternative Pressure Point assigned the Clubhead Lag -- must always be driven unfailingly toward the Line (1-L #10).

Doc,

Is the #3 pressure point also rotated for a swinger who ends at TOP?

Muchas!

B

[Yoda]

Doc,

Is the #3 pressure point also rotated for a swinger who ends at TOP?

No, Colonel.

Ideally, the Swinger begins his Stroke with the #3 Pressure Point in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger and directly behind the Shaft. He does not actively change that Loading to against the first knuckle (and the top of the Shaft). Instead, as the Backstroke progresses from Top (of the Line Delivery Path -- Right Shoulder high and On Plane) to End (anywhere, even a fraction, beyond Top) that function is performed by the motion of the Club itself.

As the Club approaches the horizontal, its momentum pulls the Club more and more toward the Ground. This Action gradually loads the Sweetspot Plane of Rotation Pressure away from the back of the Shaft and toward its top. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm (and Elbow) that initially supported the back of the Shaft now supports its top.

That Loading Action does not exist for the Swinger who restricts his Backstroke to Top.

[12 piece bucket]

No, Colonel.

Ideally, the Swinger begins his Stroke with the #3 Pressure Point in the meaty part of the Right Forefinger and directly behind the Shaft. He does not actively change that Loading to against the first knuckle (and the top of the Shaft). Instead, as the Backstroke progresses from Top (of the Line Delivery Path -- Right Shoulder high and On Plane) to End (anywhere, even a fraction, beyond Top) that function is performed by the motion of the Club itself.

As the Club approaches the horizontal, its momentum pulls the Club more and more toward the Ground. This Action gradually loads the Sweetspot Plane of Rotation Pressure away from the back of the Shaft and toward its top. Meanwhile, the Right Forearm (and Elbow) that initially supported the back of the Shaft now supports its top.

That Loading Action does not exist for the Swinger who restricts his Backstroke to Top.

To me TOP is where it's at. Swinging or Hitting.

Thanks!

B

[Yoda]

My post above cries out for video. A question answered with a precision unknown to the world of conventional golf instruction and supported with video.

Will you guys support a premium site? If so, what is reasonable? No kidding. This site needs you. For the best golf instruction pieces in the world...what is reasonable?

[dcg1952]

Support a premium site?? Sure, sign me up!!
How much to charge?? Hmmmmmmmmmmm-I know another TGM site charges about $40/yr.---and I signed up for that, if that gives you a clue. Not sure what the "break point" is for the average person who views this site on a regular basis. Perhaps you could develop your ideas for the premium site, post those, and then take a poll as to what people would be willing to pay. Yearly access fee vs 6 mo access vs 3 month access, prices for each, etc. Random thoughts after being up for 18 1/2 hrs.

Bottom line---if you build it, they will come. Dr Dave

[Yoda]

Thanks, Dave.

That's a start, folks. We sincerely need your constructive advice. Let us hear from you.

[6bmike]

Almost any price is reasonable when you consider what We have gotten so far for free. The Hogan home movie, the Tom Tomsello series, Snead and Toski, Ben Doyle and all the Blake/Fort clips from workshops. An impressive library of information.

But I have reservations about a premium service like Chuck’s because it creates a two-tier level of membership. You can feel like an outsider if you do not join.

Maybe the Brian Manzella a la carte pricing is the way to go. PayPal to unlock the codes and keep the video. On Chuck’s site, the video clips (unless changed) cannot be downloaded – only viewed while a member online. I never liked. I would pay an extra cost to be able to “keep’ the download.

I do not know the (devil in the ) details of either method- Manzella's or Evan's.

A buck a week? The price of a box of ProVs? The cost of a round of golf at your favorite course? 20 bucks a year? What is it worth? How much ‘product,' how often?

I would make sure that enough video material is in the ‘can’ before launching the service to prevent any lull in service.

food for thought

6b

[Yoda]

Thanks, Mike.