#14 12-16-2005, 11:26 AM MBCpro LBG Pro Contributor Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 122 Philly, You can't have pivot controlled hands in putting because your pivot is zeroed out. I have seen you putt, remember the shoulders are double agents, part pivot, part power package!!! Todd MBCpro View Public Profile Send a private message to MBCpro Find all posts by MBCpro