#2 12-30-2005, 12:03 AM annikan skywalker Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 796 Elbow drop is useful for a double shift or reverse loop down to or back to the Elbow Plane ...these are more compatible with a Top Arc Angled Line or Angle Line procedure....Just don't "pervert your pitch"..got it! annikan skywalker View Public Profile Send a private message to annikan skywalker Find all posts by annikan skywalker