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Old 04-12-2006, 09:36 AM
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Hue,

Good luck with your Mom. Keep positive thoughts for both of you.

For info on the Plane Board try this link: http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508

I made mine from some basic plans in Hank Johnson's book "The Three Games of Golf" (I think that was the title?)
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by golfbulldog

...nobody is born with TGM knowledge,everybody needs time to incubate, and patient instructors!

Originally Posted by hue

Having met Yoda who IMHO knows the book better than anyone. I found the questions he asked showed that was not always the case. This has given me encouragement to keep on at it as knowledge is acquired and earned and Yoda is living proof of that and an example of what can be achieved.
Right you are, fellows. I remember the poster of a young lad wearing a baseball glove and holding a bat on his shoulder. The caption read: "The greatest experts were once beginners."

I have written before that The Golfing Machine® is a journey whose rigors test all who attempt it. Mastery comes only at a price, and the coin is dedication and persistence. There are no exceptions, including Homer Kelley himself.

I once asked him, "How did you do it, Homer? How was it possible?"

He didn't hesitate:

"The sweat of blood on every page."
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Old 04-12-2006, 11:26 AM
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Here is a photo of a simple plane board
http://www.golfbetterproductions.com/lie-angle.asp

I would be more interested in creating Homer's indoor plane out of plastic sheeting? You could get the feel of a single plane swing -- the right forearm riding up and down the plane.
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:13 PM
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Yoda,

I would be very interested to know how good a golfer Homer was. I have no doubts he could demonstrate everything in the book, but did he also enjoy simply playing a round of golf?

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Old 04-12-2006, 08:36 PM
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Thankyou for posting the link to the audio.

Wonderful listening!!!.

When Lynn Blake asked him about 10-3-E Putt and the

motionless Right Shoulder was his reply that it could be

executed as a "Swing" or "Hit", thereby matching the Full

Stroke Pattern?.

Thankyou again for the audio and a truly exceptional site.

The Golf Academy boys better watch out. There may be more

than a Plane Shift taking place!!!!.
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Old 04-12-2006, 10:18 PM
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You know, it really IS amazing! I don't have the exact date in front of me, but this conversation was recorded 25 years ago next month, and nothing in this system of golf instruction has changed. How many 'methods' have come and gone since? And how many of those few that have survived still profess their original principles and procedures?

I remember the call as if it were yesterday. Tommy Tomasello and I were sitting in the stands behind the practice tee during the Atlanta Golf Classic, enjoying a wonderful spring afternoon watching Gene Littler and Larry Nelson hit balls after their rounds. We had both become students of The Golfing Machine® in 1979 when Bobby Clampett emerged as a world-class player and drew attention to The Book. We got to asking each other questions that neither of us could answer and decided then and there to go call the only person we knew who could: Homer Kelley. So, off we went to Tommy's house. He hooked up his little cassette recorder to the phone in the living room, punched in Homer's number and the rest, as they say, is history.

For the record, I did not authorize the release of the tape, just as I did not authorize the publication of my photograph of Homer Kelley that appeared a couple of years ago in a feature article of Sports Illustrated. Further, I had no knowledge that the tape was being promoted on Peter Croker's new site www.crokergolfsystem.com. But, also for the record, had I been asked, I would have had no objection to it. The Golfing Machine® is so much bigger than any one person, and Homer's genius and words belong to all golfdom, not just to the few who were there. I am humbled to have had the privilege of working with Homer, and I am proud to be playing today least a small part in bringing his work to the forefront of golf instruction.

For his part, Peter Croker is a champion golfer and teacher who is doing a magnificent job communicating TGM concepts around the world. He wrote a note last year inviting me to participate in his U.S. tour and, while we were not able to connect, the groundwork for a future association was laid. Our own Lee Dietrick (ldeit) was and is an integral part of that connection.

And, finally, this third time for the record, the reason Tommy's and my tape (and so much more) have not appeared on this site is that I was advised early on by the current owner of The Golfing Machine, LLC -- first orally and later in writing -- that doing so would be an infringement on the "rights" they alledgedly hold to the name, image and voice of Homer Kelley. Through counsel, I requested documentation of those "rights," but I received none. Nor was my request even acknowledged. Nevertheless, respecting the notice given and not wanting to test those murky waters at this time, I have refrained from any public dissemination of my recordings. Also pursuant to their written order, we no longer sponsor the Homer Kelley Award -- despite the prior approval and participation in the 2004 Award by The Golfing Machine, LLC -- and have removed from the site all threads relating to it, including recognition of its deserved recipient, then 17-year-old Matthew Sluzinski.
I very much enjoyed the audio and was surprised that apparently many have not listened to others.

My thanks to Peter Croker for keeping me anchored to TGM with the Hit Basics video. I had set the book aside after an initial reading with a feeling of ineptness. The video was found in a used bookstore and I remember his name from the magazine series. There was a connection with his "push the right hand bent" and other drills. His book, Path to Better Golf was, for me, a disappointment and then he resurfaced in the Tomasello tapes. An associate, Martin Green, reveals a TGM foundation in his Push For Perfection video drills.

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Old 04-13-2006, 07:52 AM
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Like others, I found this tape very valuable. Yoda, can you remember what the exercise Tom had students do with a glass of water was? Mentioned at the 18 minute mark.

Thanks,
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Old 04-14-2006, 12:00 PM
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To Lynn from Peter Croker

Dear Lynn,
I appreciate all you are doing to take forward Homer's work. Both Paul Hart and I commend you for your persistence in studying all you can from TGM and your clear teachings that have followed.
Tom Tomasello was a dear friend to me and as part of our exchange, he gave me many audio tapes to study and to use in forwarding Homer's work plus many other valuable insights into Homer's works.
From this I have continued my research into "that one swing" Homer eludes to in his preface.
I appreciate that you have Tom Tomasello's videos that I shot downunder in 1989 at Peninsula Country Club, Melbourne, Austtralia. They are a real treasure to me and for you to share them with your members is a great thing.
Also having Lee Deitrick as a Forum Guest Instructor is great to see. Lee is one of the most insightful Golf Instructors I have met and I value his connection to our Croker Golf System as one of my Senior Instructors in the USA.
I am coming to the USA this June/July and this time would love to catch up in person.
I will be with Wedgy Winchester in Seaside, Oregon and also with Charlie Poole and Mark Wanser in Westchester County, NY

Kindest Regards,
Peter Croker
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Old 04-14-2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Croker

To Lynn from Peter Croker

Dear Lynn,

I appreciate all you are doing to take forward Homer's work. Both Paul Hart and I commend you for your persistence in studying all you can from TGM and your clear teachings that have followed.

Tom Tomasello was a dear friend to me and as part of our exchange, he gave me many audio tapes to study and to use in forwarding Homer's work plus many other valuable insights into Homer's works. From this I have continued my research into "that one swing" Homer eludes to in his preface.

I appreciate that you have Tom Tomasello's videos that I shot downunder in 1989 at Peninsula Country Club, Melbourne, Australia. They are a real treasure to me and for you to share them with your members is a great thing.

Also having Lee Deitrick as a Forum Guest Instructor is great to see. Lee is one of the most insightful Golf Instructors I have met and I value his connection to our Croker Golf System as one of my Senior Instructors in the USA.

I am coming to the USA this June/July and this time would love to catch up in person. I will be with Wedgy Winchester in Seaside, Oregon and also with Charlie Poole and Mark Wanser in Westchester County, NY.

Kindest Regards,
Peter Croker
Hi Peter,

Thanks for writing. I appreciate your comments and am looking forward to meeting you personally.

As you may know, I will be in Westchester County, NY, the week of the Barclay's Classic, June 5-11. What are your dates there? If you will be there before, during or after, perhaps we can arrange to get together then.

Meanwhile, I wish you all the best with your work and your new site. You deserve it.
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Old 04-15-2006, 05:35 PM
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Dear Lynn,
I appreciate all you are doing to take forward Homer's work. Both Paul Hart and I commend you for your persistence in studying all you can from TGM and your clear teachings that have followed.
Tom Tomasello was a dear friend to me and as part of our exchange, he gave me many audio tapes to study and to use in forwarding Homer's work plus many other valuable insights into Homer's works.
From this I have continued my research into "that one swing" Homer eludes to in his preface.
I appreciate that you have Tom Tomasello's videos that I shot downunder in 1989 at Peninsula Country Club, Melbourne, Austtralia. They are a real treasure to me and for you to share them with your members is a great thing.
Also having Lee Deitrick as a Forum Guest Instructor is great to see. Lee is one of the most insightful Golf Instructors I have met and I value his connection to our Croker Golf System as one of my Senior Instructors in the USA.
I am coming to the USA this June/July and this time would love to catch up in person.
I will be with Wedgy Winchester in Seaside, Oregon and also with Charlie Poole and Mark Wanser in Westchester County, NY

Kindest Regards,
Peter Croker
I was fortunate enough to meet the legendary Paul Hart at the Henry-Griffitts Super School in Surfer's Paradise, Australia. He and his apprentice, Steve Khatib, were real gentlemen and treated those of us from the U.S. like they'd known us for years. It was a great experience.

If you speak to Paul, please tell him that Ted Fort said, G'day mate. I'd love to spend some additional time with Paul, talking about TGM.

Yoda and I are looking forward to meeting you. I hope it works out at the Barclay's.
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