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Old 05-24-2006, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Vikram
Here we go again. After a TGM student becomes the No.1 golf ametuer in India another one gets second place in the Malaysian Ametuer at 14 under par. Now THATS not too bad going is it. Things are happenning around here people and TGM is coming alive. "I am trying my best Mr. Kelly" Hope you can hear this!!!!

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For those who think Vikram got lucky by chancing upon a world beater...think again.

His student Chiragh Kumar was no where near the dominant amateur he is now before he met "Sir". Nuff' said
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:00 PM
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Deadly Vik.....a victory for you is a victory for all of us man.
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Old 05-25-2006, 06:21 AM
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Thanks Compda,

You had the pleasure of meeting Chiragh when he was in Singapore and rubbed some of your vast TGM knowledge into his mind, body and soul. So you're a part of that acheivement too.

Thanks for the compliment Justin. Now lets go and get some more guys into the fray.

Birdie man Thanks for your kind words for our fraternity.

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Old 05-25-2006, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Vikram
Here we go again. After a TGM student becomes the No.1 golf ametuer in India another one gets second place in the Malaysian Ametuer at 14 under par. Now THATS not too bad going is it. Things are happenning around here people and TGM is coming alive. "I am trying my best Mr. Kelly" Hope you can hear this!!!!

Vik
Congratulations Vikram Is it just my ignorance in the past, or are there a lot more youngsters taking the game up in India?I seem to notice more Indian names in amatuer golf these days-are they about to take over like the Koreans have in the LPGA?.If so,you're going to be busy
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Old 05-25-2006, 12:47 PM
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Yes Neil Thank you.

It is busy out here and its only getting better. I see only the "tip of the day teachers" around here and its a pity that only some few will ever get the information that they really really need to become better individuals and better players.TGM has cleared the way for me, otherwise I would have been a card in that pack too. Theres so much conflicting information around that it makes me sick at times the way the game is taught. Less said the better. For me?-I just STUCK to the essentials and imperatives, used the component variations to get my students to where they needed to be in their alignments and I have two pretty good performing players and quite a few who are getting there - slowly but steadily. Its been a lot of hard work both sides but thats the only way to go I guess. I have another imperative that I found most useful and that my freinds is how to talk patience into your pupils.

Yes Neil, we have a few guys up there and lots more to come hopefully. Will need every bit of everyones input and encouragement to get there though and by the looks of it I have all the help I need.

Thanks everyone.

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Old 06-08-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by lagster
Why does much of the golf world seem to dislike TGM? I have been involved with TGM since the late 80's. The reaction I often get when I mention I am a TGMer is usually not very positive, and sometimes quite negative, unless the person is already involved, then they usually like it very much. Why is this? I think I know.

1) To them... TGM has a cult like appearance, where there is a special language, and even a HANDSHAKE.

2) To them... Many of the TGMers seem to think they have all the answers. They seem to think that TGMers believe that non-TGM golf knowledge is inferior, even though they may have spent years learning golf teaching information and techniques from OTHER sources, many of them proven to produce champions and good players.

There probably are a few other reasons, but that is all I will list.

What can be done to change these perceptions?
As new to the TGM book and theory here's my 2 cents.

My place in the golf world is as a recreational player that strives to improve. I've played for 15 yrs now following all the traditional instruction published in print and broadcast on TV. When I stumbled upon this site I found the depth of discussion fascinating even if it was way over my head. I love technical discussion and exploration so I feel like TGM is a good fit for me. I thinks that's the main difference, some people don't have the paitience or interest to plumb the depths of golf theory that TGM does. TGM is fantastically complex to the fisrt time reader. I think that TGM is best suited to a certain personality type and the golfer at or near single digit handicap.

The similarities to a cult are apparent too. It appears to have an almost mythical figurehead, devout followers, sacred text, the handshake I haven't heard of. Similar to a religion, it attempts to answer all the concievable questions one might have about the subject with an element of faith required to boot. There's a definite sense of superiority in this forum that may be well deserved, I certainly can't suggest anything that's better and it may prove to be the best eventually.

I would not feel comfortable in telling my playing buddies to go and buy the book, they're just not that interested.

To change the perception? I don't know if it can be done without a marquee player flying the TGM flag. It sucks but that's the era we are in. We live in a world of instant gratification, something that you won't find in TGM.
Try and picture an infommercial for TGM.

My opinion is that TGM is best golf instruction manual because it properly details an immensely complex athletic activity. I am truly glad to have found it and this forum.

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Old 06-08-2006, 12:11 PM
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As new to the TGM book and theory here's my 2 cents.

My place in the golf world is as a recreational player that strives to improve. I've played for 15 yrs now following all the traditional instruction published in print and broadcast on TV. When I stumbled upon this site I found the depth of discussion fascinating even if it was way over my head. I love technical discussion and exploration so I feel like TGM is a good fit for me. I thinks that's the main difference, some people don't have the paitience or interest to plumb the depths of golf theory that TGM does. TGM is fantastically complex to the fisrt time reader. I think that TGM is best suited to a certain personality type and the golfer at or near single digit handicap.

The similarities to a cult are apparent too. It appears to have an almost mythical figurehead, devout followers, sacred text, the handshake I haven't heard of. Similar to a religion, it attempts to answer all the concievable questions one might have about the subject with an element of faith required to boot. There's a definite sense of superiority in this forum that may be well deserved, I certainly can't suggest anything that's better and it may prove to be the best eventually.

I would not feel comfortable in telling my playing buddies to go and buy the book, they're just not that interested.

To change the perception? I don't know if it can be done without a marquee player flying the TGM flag. It sucks but that's the era we are in. We live in a world of instant gratification, something that you won't find in TGM.
Try and picture an infommercial for TGM.

My opinion is that TGM is best golf instruction manual because it properly details an immensely complex athletic activity. I am truly glad to have found it and this forum.

CW
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:23 PM
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Hey, who told Millrat about the secret handshake?

Pass the Coolaide so we can make a toast. You have come to the right place.

Seriously, you post has alot to say. Many feel the same way you do. I am a little concerned about the sense of superiority. That can be a turn-off. I believe that the people that post here, however, mean well and will be helpful to all that really want to learn.
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humility - I like it Lynn. There are a coule instructors I've seen elsewhere with an absolute deficiency in this regard.
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Old 06-08-2006, 01:29 PM
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The similarities to a cult are apparent too. It appears to have an almost mythical figurehead, devout followers, sacred text, the handshake I haven't heard of. Similar to a religion, it attempts to answer all the concievable questions one might have about the subject with an element of faith required to boot. There's a definite sense of superiority in this forum that may be well deserved, I certainly can't suggest anything that's better and it may prove to be the best eventually.
lol secret handshake....

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The cult stigma is prolly well deserved at times.
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