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Old 08-12-2006, 06:29 PM
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The right arm wants to straighten first on the take-away and then on the down stroke. But it is stuck holding the club with the right hand as part of the Flying wedge assembly. Just its luck being locked to the master accumulator #4- the left arm.

So what is left for it to do... stay on plane and apply extensor action as it striaghtens. Not so passive is it?

As a swinger, this point always seems to throw me; what differentiates this sensation from hitting? It does feel (to me, at least) like my right arm is driving; without this sensation, my right arm collapses.
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Old 08-12-2006, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigwill
As a swinger, this point always seems to throw me; what differentiates this sensation from hitting? It does feel (to me, at least) like my right arm is driving; without this sensation, my right arm collapses.
The right arm is always driving to become straight. This might be what you feel.
The difference is that a Hitter drives an angle directly to the ball...
and a Swinger cranks his gyro- right shoulder- to "ignite” the blast off of the left arm, the fourth accumulator and whirls the clubhead. This arc of approach “freewheels” (a non tgm term) the Flying Wedges. Since the right half of the wedge extends to the right arm, you will feel it- it just can’t muscle and push the shaft near impact. Trust Newton and let the head whirl.

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Old 08-14-2006, 09:14 AM
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When swinging think right side, not right arm. When I'm hitting I actually focus on straightening the right arm into impact. When I'm swining I just think of firing the right shoulder into impact while rotating the left arm. 6B Mike's explanation is right on. I never think of pulling, I'm pushing the right side, which in essence forces the left side to pull.
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Old 08-14-2006, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by tball88
When swinging think right side, not right arm. When I'm hitting I actually focus on straightening the right arm into impact. When I'm swining I just think of firing the right shoulder into impact while rotating the left arm. 6B Mike's explanation is right on. I never think of pulling, I'm pushing the right side, which in essence forces the left side to pull.
TBall,

This is a very useful and concise post. Thanks!


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Old 08-14-2006, 07:53 PM
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Oh man that don't work for me. I'm a left side guy. (but knowing what the right side does is pivitol...."mystery of the golf stroke fades away...")

I do know it works for some ppl tho.
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Old 08-16-2006, 07:53 PM
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the right arm is the true secret to playing great golf.once you understand and can see how it works the whole swing is simple.hitting or swinging you have to understand the right arm.mr.kelly said once you understand ,then this would be the magic of the right arm.bending and straighting the right arm cocks and uncocks the wrist.so if you do not feel the right arm staighten you are not uncocking the hands.
a very good drill to monitor this is to make slomotion swings so you can see delivery line prep,the roll and the uncocking as the right arm straightens.this is all i think of in my swing and when you feel the hands uncocking you will get some serious comression.monitor the hands watch what happens when the right arm begins to straighten.you have to do this drill as slow as you can.hope this helps everyone,i know it has helped me
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Old 08-16-2006, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bmike
The right arm is always driving to become straight. This might be what you feel.
The difference is that a Hitter drives an angle directly to the ball...
and a Swinger cranks his gyro- right shoulder- to "ignite” the blast off of the left arm, the fourth accumulator and whirls the clubhead. This arc of approach “freewheels” (a non tgm term) the Flying Wedges. Since the right half of the wedge extends to the right arm, you will feel it- it just can’t muscle and push the shaft near impact. Trust Newton and let the head whirl.

back to the egg.
I'm still incubating this one !I believe you must PULL if swinging?It is certainly what I am trying to do,as I tend to have a certain amount of right arm participation.The "non TGM"term is "confusing".Right shoulder gyro is also confusing-for a swinger-and ,also ,I believe,wrong.
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:30 PM
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I'm still incubating this one !I believe you must PULL if swinging?It is certainly what I am trying to do,as I tend to have a certain amount of right arm participation.The "non TGM"term is "confusing".Right shoulder gyro is also confusing-for a swinger-and ,also ,I believe,wrong.
Still at work (no book) but I believe Homer and for a fact- Lynn- speak of the right shoulder acting as a Gryo to crank up the flywheel (Right arm/right side). The right shoulder is the force that blasts the left arm off the chest. Accum #4, #2 then #3 is a pulling action of monitored by pp2.

Any thoughts folks?
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Old 08-16-2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by john riegger
the right arm is the true secret to playing great golf.once you understand and can see how it works the whole swing is simple.hitting or swinging you have to understand the right arm.mr.kelly said once you understand ,then this would be the magic of the right arm.bending and straighting the right arm cocks and uncocks the wrist.so if you do not feel the right arm staighten you are not uncocking the hands.
a very good drill to monitor this is to make slomotion swings so you can see delivery line prep,the roll and the uncocking as the right arm straightens.this is all i think of in my swing and when you feel the hands uncocking you will get some serious comression.monitor the hands watch what happens when the right arm begins to straighten.you have to do this drill as slow as you can.hope this helps everyone,i know it has helped me
Nice drill- I might be prejudiced about this one but Delivery Line Prep and Roll changed everything about the left arm for me. Not many golfers outside of LBG or TGM understand how the clubface 'rolls' into impact. If it didn't we would be striking the ball with the clubhead sole.

Pull, roll and catch rain- swinger's hand action on the downswing.
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Old 08-16-2006, 11:36 PM
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you can still be swinging and have right arm participation the right arm always strives to straighten.if it doesnt straight in the downstroke you would hit it dead right.if you do the drill i stated above and do it properly then you will see what i am talking about.watch th hogan home movie of mr hogan swinging in slow motion.this is what i am refering too.watching mr.hogan doing this helped me more trhan anything i have ever done.i feel like it is the best way to monitor your hands while still making a full swing.obviously it worked for the best ball striker of all time,so maybe a few of us could benefit also
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