Hand Delivery paths

[Jeff]

I am interested in learning how different golfers use different hand delivery paths.

I am particularly interested in learning how a particular golfer produces a 10-23-A straight line hand delivery path. What are the major factors that allow a golfer to acquire a straight line delivery path rather than a circle hand delivery path?

In this discussion, I would be willing to regard an angled hand delivery path (10-23-B) as being somewhat similar to a straight line delivery path - other than the fact that the hands shift planes (shallow-out) before been pulled in a straight line direction down the "straightish" section of the U-shaped handarc.

Jeff.

[12 piece bucket]

I am interested in learning how different golfers use different hand delivery paths.

I am particularly interested in learning how a particular golfer produces a 10-23-A straight line hand delivery path. What are the major factors that allow a golfer to acquire a straight line delivery path rather than a circle hand delivery path?

In this discussion, I would be willing to regard an angled hand delivery path (10-23-B) as being somewhat similar to a straight line delivery path - other than the fact that the hands shift planes (shallow-out) before been pulled in a straight line direction down the "straightish" section of the U-shaped handarc.

Jeff.

Much of this has to do with Plane Angle, Plane Angle shifts (and/or Line Shifts) and #3 accumulator angle.

[Jeff]

12PB

I can understand there being some plane angle shifts secondary to the biomechanical process that causes the hand arc to be "straightish". However, what is the biomechanical mechanism that causes the hand arc to be straight along a portion of its arc (usually the top section)? What must a golfer do to have a section of his hand arc become straight rather than circular?

Jeff.

[12 piece bucket]

12PB

I can understand there being some plane angle shifts secondary to the biomechanical process that causes the hand arc to be "straightish". However, what is the biomechanical mechanism that causes the hand arc to be straight along a portion of its arc (usually the top section)? What must a golfer do to have a section of his hand arc become straight rather than circular?

Jeff.

Axis tilt . . . .

[Jeff]

12PB

I agree that axis tilt is part of the answer.

However, I think that there is a lot more involved in creating a "straightish" upper section of a hand arc.

Why does it occur in the early downswing?

Jeff.

[12 piece bucket]

12PB

I agree that axis tilt is part of the answer.

However, I think that there is a lot more involved in creating a "straightish" upper section of a hand arc.

Why does it occur in the early downswing?

Jeff.

I'm not really willing to go a long with the premise that it does . . .

[Jeff]

I will provide a lengthy post tomorrow delineating my personal opinion on what causes the straight section of the hand delivery path. I need to prepare many photos.

Jeff.

[david sandridge]

I am glad you have your own forum. It is certainly interesting. However most of your questions have already been answered in TGM world. Any authorized instructor, or Lynn Blakes student fully understands what they are going to do with the hands because they are already educated. There is no mystery. Mine go back to turned shoulder plane at the top, cause I can't get to the end I don't worry about any curves. Then hands and shoulder go down plane to ball. they can do that because my hips have cleared(hula, hula, axis tilt) Aiming point and ball location worked out on range and may vary with my timing and rhythm. It works very well. All of the pretty photos, stobe shots, tracing hands etc are not helpful in performing the motion required. Greg McHatton(a very cerebral guy) has on his site the Blobman computer program of a golfer that allows you to isolate any part of the golfer anatomy and see what it does. If photos of me showed my hands describing an arc I wouldn't care - to me it is a straight line. It should be obvious that it you take the backswing to the end you have to have an initial curved path and certainly at the release point the hands are going to go away from that straight line.

[Jeff]

Dave - you wrote-:

" It should be obvious that it you take the backswing to the end you have to have an initial curved path and certainly at the release point the hands are going to go away from that straight line."

Why is there a straight line section in the early/mid downswing - after the initial curved path? What causes it to happen? Why is it not curved during that phase of the downswing?

Jeff.

[Matt Kluck]

The swing synchronizes the upper and lower torso to create a tilt that creates a free fall that becomes "straightish" before the pivot/right shoulder creates the squaring of the golf club. Remember, the hips create the room for this movement.