I do not try to take my club back with shoulder...might be my lower part body pivot is too aggressive going back....
Indeed, the feeling of "Up" element is so weak in my golf swing...really need some drills to make my backswing more on plane.
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
I do not try to take my club back with shoulder...might be my lower part body pivot is too aggressive going back....
Indeed, the feeling of "Up" element is so weak in my golf swing...really need some drills to make my backswing more on plane.
Hmmm. Can I take one last shot at it?
I'm now wondering if your lower body is over rotating and throwing your hands inside? This would be another version of pivot to hands. Its common, I still sometimes suffer from the shoulder turn version of this.
So try this:
-consider the lower body and the arms as going in different directions.
The right hip (only) turns BACK and the right forearm and frozen right wrist go UP.
-working just with the hips consider them as having a set place at which the right hip stops. Ill leave it to you to determine where this is depending on flexibility. Hips at 45 degrees? Or what ever. But feel them stop. That is, in start up clear that right hip back a set amount only and then stop. What is going on up top may pull them around a bit more , that is ok.
-working just with the right arm and hand, no club. With the frozen right wrist bent to the desired amount from fix, put your mind in your right wrist and take it up to your ideal top position. Look, look, look back at Top and take your right hand up there with RFT. Just let your shoulders respond to the hand dont think about the shoulders. This is what we do in normal human motion. Like reaching behind you for a cup off of a high kitchen shelf. You dont think about the pivot when doing that! If your thinking about it all its just the brain sending the hand to the cup. The cup representing Top for the golfer. This is hands to pivot. We do it all day , everyday and should do it in golf too. Put your brain in your hand and it will go where you direct it.
Anyways good luck with it and thanks again for all those amazing videos
Swingers set up a "swing-back" motion, Hitters generally a "carry-back" motion all on Plane. Per 2-F, every Component of the Stroke must be adjusted to comply with the Plane. The question then becomes: which Plane?
Depending upon the Plane (7-6,10-6) you choose and any Plane Shifts or Variations (10-6) will require you to vary the Three Dimensional Back, Up and In.
While applying Extensor Action at Start Up the amount of Right Forearm Fanning and Right Forearm Pick-Up (as controlled by The Magic of the Right Forearm, per 7-3) as well as the Pivot have to all be balanced out to keep your motion on Plane all while under the direction of Educated Hands.
Thanks for all inputs…for swinging, any comment for the following:-
Move your arms the least the better, pivot, internal turning will swing the club back, up and in…the club will also set our wrists; you don’t consciously lift the arms…
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
Thanks for all inputs…for swinging, any comment for the following:-
Move your arms the least the better, pivot, internal turning will swing the club back, up and in…the club will also set our wrists; you don’t consciously lift the arms…
If this is out of TGM then I must have everything all wrong. How could turning the body take the club up?
If this is out of TGM then I must have everything all wrong. How could turning the body take the club up?
Regards
ob
An inward turn produces an outward force. This is similar to what GSED Gregg McHatton preaches and what could be interpreted as Pivot control Hands. The sharper the inward turn the more the club moves away from you and not under Plane. The issue stills lie in the execution. Can the club be moved on the Plane that you have selected consciously or subconsciously.
An inward turn produces an outward force. This is similar to what GSED Gregg McHatton preaches and what could be interpreted as Pivot control Hands. The sharper the inward turn the more the club moves away from you and not under Plane. The issue stills lie in the execution. Can the club be moved on the Plane that you have selected consciously or subconsciously.
Very interesting Drew, thanks.
So this would be CF on the backswing is that right? A Pivot driven backswing?
Not knowing Mr McHatton or the full breadth of this, it does on the surface remind me of Knudsons teachings. Pivot to hands. I can imagine it golf wise but only with hands that know where to go. Or for people who already have educated hands, if this makes sense. I dont see it when we are doing normal every day motions. Grabbing a cup off the top shelf in the kitchen, do we wing the shoulders around to throw the arm and hand up to the top shelf? Maybe I am misconstruing things.
No disrespect intended to Mr McHatton. I like Blobman.
Drew told the story behind...but I really don't know is that pivot to hand or hand to pivot....Mr. Ben Doyle said in his DVD "The Hands are controlling the pivot, the hands are...come on pivot, take me back, assemble, load me, come on delivery me and releasing through the ball..."
I have a question long in my mind: Can we both monitor the hands and pivot at the same time?
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If you cannot take the shoulder down the clubshaft plane, you must take along some other path and add compensations - now, instead of one motion to remember, you wind up with at least two!
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