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[lagster]

In your opinions... list a few guys or gals on tour that use the

TURNED SHOULDER PLANE -------------------

TURNING SHOULDER PLANE-------------------

HANDS PLANE------------------------

ELBOW PLANE------------------------

SQUARED SHOULDER PLANE---------------------

CUSTOM PLANES--------------------

I'll start...

Elbow Plane-- Dana Quigley(for entire stroke)

Hands Plane-- Mac O'Grady(at Address)

Reverse Shift-- Nick Price

[birdie_man]

Elbow Plane- Ben Hogan, Sergio Garcia, Sam Snead, Vijay Singh, Mike Finney (MikeSTLOC), Byron Nelson, Gary Player, Lee Trevino, Chad Cambell, Charles Howell III, Greg Norman, Retief, Padraig, Duval, Adam Scott, Tiger, Nick Price, Daly, Zinger, Davis Love, Johnny Miller, Faldo.

Turned Shoulder Plane- David Toms, Freddie, Darren Clarke, Ernie, Hank Kuehne, Mickelson, Nicklaus, Michelle Wie, Hale Irwin...

Bedtime.


Someone help me out with the TSPlane list.

Damn there's a lot of great players that use the elbow plane (on the downswing)...

[brianmanzella]

Turned Shoulder Plane Downswing:

Tom Watson

John Huston

[nevermind]

For my benefit, could you clarify what you mean by "use". Shaft or Sweetspot? thanks

[birdie_man]

Nicklaus on the TSPlane: http://asafgolf.free.fr/images/golf/...aus_profil.jpg

Norman: http://asafgolf.free.fr/images/golf/...n_profilar.jpg

Maybe he changed his swing since then.

[lagster]

For my benefit, could you clarify what you mean by "use". Shaft or Sweetspot? thanks

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Employ, utilize... per 10-6 and 10-7

[nevermind]

So it's the shaft. Only, many times people say "such and such used the x plane", then I have a look and for much of the swing the shaft is not on that angle.

[birdie_man]

I wonder why so many ppl use the elbow plane on the downswing...

Is it because that's what they do naturally or that's what's taught/a result of what's taught?

[Matt]

I wonder why so many ppl use the elbow plane on the downswing...

Is it because that's what they do naturally or that's what's taught/a result of what's taught?

They've just been told for so long that they had to shift back down. What mainstream instructor is teaching a zero shift on the turned shoulder plane? None. Every month in the magazines you read about how you get to a steeper plane going back and have to "drop it in the slot" or some nonsense on the way down. While that's certainly a viable option, it's not the only option nor the most efficient.

The sweetspot certainly doesn't want to fall back down. It just wants to take a straight line to the ball, following PP3.