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annikan skywalker 10-23-2006 09:46 AM
Yeah...and this wreaks of MORAD ...The Arc of Approach procedure would be CP and the True Geometric Plane Line would be CF...All the parts come together and the timing is just right.....1980???? 5th edition ...Mac working with Homer 1979-?:naughty:

EdZ 10-23-2006 11:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
To whom it may concern,
Why did Mr. Kelley omit this from the 6th edition?
5th editiion
Drive Loading calls for the Angle of Approach procedure(2-J-3) which REQUIRES:
-1. Pre-turned Hips at the Takeaway
-2. a"sliding" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-3. A LINE delivery path
-4. The right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach (Crooss-Line motion 7-23)

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

I think this very valuable info.... What do ya think? Why was it taken out of the 6th edition....Anybody got an idea?

Bottled Coke and Peanuts,
Annikan
The short answer is that to leave this in, certainly as written, would suggest that hinge action was tied directly to hit vs swing, that it defined them. You can still swing with angled hinge, or hit with horizontal, so these statements are too limiting. That said, they are reasonable suggestions that explain pretty clearly 'compatible' components.

Mike O 10-23-2006 12:09 PM
Clean up
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tongzilla
Homer meant Tracing the Arc of Approach with the Right Forearm, not the Clubhead. Since the Arc of Approach is a Delivery Line that guides the Clubhead, the Clubhead covers the curved Arc of Approach. This contrasts with the True Geometric Plane Line because both the Right Forearm (and the Clubhshaft/Sweetspot) and the Clubhead Trace that Delivery Line.
Tong,
As Annikan posted- the above is unclear - can you clean it up?

yippedagain 10-23-2006 01:02 PM
Reeks or wreaks ?.

Yes, the timing is bang on.

Were there problems when he removed it?. I am sure someone must know what was going on then. I have heard lots but only second hand, so am not qualified to comment.

tobell 10-25-2006 03:25 PM
Compatible Components
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EdZ
The short answer is that to leave this in, certainly as written, would suggest that hinge action was tied directly to hit vs swing, that it defined them. You can still swing with angled hinge, or hit with horizontal, so these statements are too limiting. That said, they are reasonable suggestions that explain pretty clearly 'compatible' components.


"Compatible Components", ultimately that's what it's all about; and the 10-19-0 in the 5th edition really shines some light--thanks Annikan. I hold optimizing component compatibility as the ultimate skill. The three imperatives plus the three essentials with the set of compatible components that best suite the individual player. Now we're talkin golf.

lagster 11-07-2006 10:52 PM
Circle /Drag
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by annikan skywalker
To whom it may concern,
Why did Mr. Kelley omit this from the 6th edition?
5th editiion
Drive Loading calls for the Angle of Approach procedure(2-J-3) which REQUIRES:
-1. Pre-turned Hips at the Takeaway
-2. a"sliding" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-3. A LINE delivery path
-4. The right forearm tracing the Angle of Approach (Crooss-Line motion 7-23)

Drag Loading calls for the Arc of Approach procedure (2-J-3-A) which requires:
-5. Delayed Hip Action
-6. a "rotating" DOWNSTROKE body motion
-7. A Circle Delivery Path
-8. The right forearm tracing the Arc of Approach (On-line motion 7-23)

I think this very valuable info.... What do ya think? Why was it taken out of the 6th edition....Anybody got an idea?

Bottled Coke and Peanuts,
Annikan
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Discuss the Relationship between Drag Loading("striving to accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise") and Circle Delivery Path of the HANDS.

EdZ 11-08-2006 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagster
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Discuss the Relationship between Drag Loading("striving to accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise") and Circle Delivery Path of the HANDS.
To accelerate the clubshaft lengthwise, force must move 'away from center', circle delivery being the more 'pure' form of that motion.

lagster 11-10-2006 10:28 AM
5 th Edition and 10-23-C
 
What did 10-23-C say in the 5th Edition?

I would like to see some discussion on these HAND PATHS... their relationship to HITTING and SWINGING, AXIS TILTS, CROSS LINE, ON LINE, TRUE GEOMETRIC PLANE LINE, etc..

lagster 11-11-2006 04:07 PM
Hand Paths
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lagster
What did 10-23-C say in the 5th Edition?

I would like to see some discussion on these HAND PATHS... their relationship to HITTING and SWINGING, AXIS TILTS, CROSS LINE, ON LINE, TRUE GEOMETRIC PLANE LINE, etc..
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No takers on this one? The Angled Line Delivery Path, for example, according to the book, is used when shifting to the Elbow Plane on the Downstroke. There are many good players that do this. Some stay on the Turned Shoulder.

Let's discuss Hand Paths relating to this.


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