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12 piece bucket 08-27-2006 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathew
I sence alot of fog :)

I'll restate the question...

What is the relationship between the plane of accumulator no.3 (which can be the plane of the left wristcock motion also - that was a good identification but doesn't show the relation between the two) when it is turned to the plane (hence fully loaded) and the inclined plane. What is the relationship between these two planes....

My question is not vague....

I would say when the left hand is turned to the plane it is parallel . . . but also assuming that you have the same amount of #3 at fix as actual impact it also determines the Plane Angle . . . Lower hands = More #3 and thus more towards the Elbow or Hands Plane . . . Higher hands with the less #3 result in a Turned Shoulder Plane angle.

neil 08-27-2006 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mathew
I sence alot of fog :)

I'll restate the question...

What is the relationship between the plane of accumulator no.3 (which can be the plane of the left wristcock motion also - that was a good identification but doesn't show the relation between the two) when it is turned to the plane (hence fully loaded) and the inclined plane. What is the relationship between these two planes....

My question is not vague....

It is a different question!:)

annikan skywalker 08-27-2006 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
I would say when the left hand is turned to the plane it is parallel . . . but also assuming that you have the same amount of #3 at fix as actual impact it also determines the Plane Angle . . . Lower hands = More #3 and thus more towards the Elbow or Hands Plane . . . Higher hands with the less #3 result in a Turned Shoulder Plane angle.

Bucket..isn't that what I stated previously....I smell what your steppin in!!! #3 it's angle and range of motion varies depending on the plane angle ...As stated above and previously... Inclined Plane...verify sweetspot plane and/or shaft plane...remember the shaft may move from its own plane and rotate onto the plane of the sweetspot...So when you are referring to Inclined Plane? Sweetspot or Shaft? Usually when Turned to the Inclined plane they are in the same plane!!!

noneedamulligan 08-27-2006 11:00 PM

They are congruient. In line but not on the same line.

Mike O 08-28-2006 11:17 AM

#3
 
1/2 way back until 1/2 way down- flatter and more closed.

At least I'll start there- have to make a living first before I take a look at the whole thing- gotta go - the IRS and Bank are knocking on the front door- wait a minute the adrenaline was flowing but now I realize that I'm in Bucket's closet- it's his house- Ah! no worries!

Bagger Lance 08-28-2006 11:20 AM

Can't help myself.

The primary lever isn't on plane, the secondary lever is always on plane.

Bagger

Mike O 08-28-2006 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bagger Lance
Can't help myself.

The primary lever isn't on plane, the secondary lever is always on plane.

Bagger

Bagger- good point- just clarify it a little more- the primary lever isn't on the "swing plane" normally. It is has it's own plane with a flat left wrist i.e. the left arm and clubshaft are "in-line", and that is normally different than the swing plane. Only when the left shoulder, hand, and "clubhead" are on the "swingplane" is the primary lever "on the swing plane"- and that can happen- i.e. zero number three accumulator or your avatar picture looks like another situation where it might be on plane or close.

But your post wasn't much different than mine in that I didn't take the time to explain in detail the potential issues to my post- i.e. 1/2 back and 1/2 way down on a chip shot?, full shot? etc. etc. And I didn't take the time to explain it fully in regards to the entire swing and the relation of the #3 accumulator plane to the swing plane and does that change or have implications if I'm using a short shot or full shot, and flat plane or steep plane, small #3 or large #3, plane shift or no plane shift. Why? Haven't looked at it before and don't have time right now to check it out.

Hopefully your game is good! or getting better! because it is a great game to play!:)

12 piece bucket 08-28-2006 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike O
1/2 way back until 1/2 way down- flatter and more closed.

At least I'll start there- have to make a living first before I take a look at the whole thing- gotta go - the IRS and Bank are knocking on the front door- wait a minute the adrenaline was flowing but now I realize that I'm in Bucket's closet- it's his house- Ah! no worries!

Good one! That one made me chuckle.

Oh hey! Say "What's up" to Ichabod Crane for me next time you pass the fridge.

Mathew 08-28-2006 01:55 PM

Everyone that said parallel is on the right track. But this doesn't explain where they are parallel and thus not fully explaining the relationship. One more night before I post the answer :)

EdZ 08-28-2006 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mathew
Everyone that said parallel is on the right track. But this doesn't explain where they are parallel and thus not fully explaining the relationship. One more night before I post the answer :)

They all come to the same "point" and that point is on 'the' plane, regardless of plane angle or loading action. I agree with Annikan that the rest can depend on multiple factors, but assume you must mean an 'ideal'.


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