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Jeff 12-08-2008 01:37 AM

Yoda - here is the photo from VJ Trolio's book.



Feel free to make a comment?

Jeff.

12 piece bucket 12-08-2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58603)
Yoda - here is the photo from VJ Trolio's book.



Feel free to make a comment?

Jeff.

NOT Yoda . . . but most of that spine is left . . . Looks like the upper and lower are pretty much lined up. AND this is Hogan . . . you can find pictures of Hogan that support different pivot theories. Hogan manipulated his pivot for the shot at hand. And as Lynnard commented earlier . . . . I'm not sure this is a "true" top pic . . . it's startdown. There are several swings in the Hogan Collection that show Hogan's spine tilting left. Hogan definitely made swings with true Hula Hula on BOTH sides (back and thru). Hogan's hips probably went more FORWARD than anyone that has ever teed it up.

12 piece bucket 12-08-2008 10:03 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7eIVD8OZAE

Here's some Hogan footage . . . .

Almost looks like he gets his spine in front of the ball.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIBHnO6nSq4

Not convinced on that K stuff.

Augusta Golf 12-08-2008 10:16 AM

Bucket, if this video is of you in a grass skirt, I'm not clicking....

12 piece bucket 12-08-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Augusta Golf (Post 58612)
Bucket, if this video is of you in a grass skirt, I'm not clicking....

Please . . . . you'd be wishing it was in Swingvision mode.

Augusta Golf 12-08-2008 10:29 AM

If everyone on the forum donates $5 we can get that Hula Studio you always wanted turned from dream to reality.

12 piece bucket 12-08-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Augusta Golf (Post 58614)
If everyone on the forum donates $5 we can get that Hula Studio you always wanted turned from dream to reality.

I would be happy to take $5 from every member on this here forum thingie . . . .

KevCarter 12-08-2008 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff (Post 58603)
Yoda - here is the photo from VJ Trolio's book.



Feel free to make a comment?

Jeff.

I am a big fan of Mr. Trolios book, and of these swing pictures of Mr. Hogan. How would we define this swing component in The Golfing Machine as far as VJ's theory?

My first thought was changing component 10-14 to 10-14-D Reverse Hips, but perhaps 10-14-C Shiftless is more applicable. Am I even using the proper thought process?

Apologies in advance if it's a silly question, just trying to learn...

Thanks,
Kevin

Rhythm 12-08-2008 11:38 AM

"I'm not sure this is a "true" top pic . . . it's startdown." :naughty:


I think it is closer to top. Which is the point VJ makes in his book. He is over there before he starts down. Which does make it top. You can tell when you see the video, the shaft is not stressed yet when his lower body is already shifted.
So he get its over there, then starts down. I believe Vj has the sequence correct.:)

12 piece bucket 12-08-2008 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhythm (Post 58620)
"I'm not sure this is a "true" top pic . . . it's startdown." :naughty:


I think it is closer to top. Which is the point VJ makes in his book. He is over there before he starts down. Which does make it top. You can tell when you see the video, the shaft is not stressed yet when his lower body is already shifted.
So he get its over there, then starts down. I believe Vj has the sequence correct.:)

Maybe . . . .

But what I will say is IF Hogan has created proverbial "PIE" at Top (which I'm not sure he has by strict definition) . . . he HAS NOT DONE IT by moving his head off the ball like some sort of Jimmy Ballard type move.

IF he makes it . . . it's because his hips went forward at some point NOT because his upper body went right.

AND again . . . . you can find swings were Hogan doesn't do that move in the backstroke.

But the thread was about Hula Hula . . . . Hogan's head doesn't "load" right much typically but his hips do go right and then back left again . .. and then they continue going left as much as anybody that has laced 'em up. . . . HULA HULA.


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