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Originally Posted by jim_0068

Answer me this ONE QUESTION, please.

If you REALLY REALLY wanted to throw a frisbee as far as you could, which shoulder would predominately think about? The lead shoulder or the trail shoulder.

;)

Personally...

If I was thinking about a body part at all, I would be thinking about my spinning Hips.

And once I got that Pivot activity relegated to subconscious control, I would focus on creating (and sensing) maximum Lag Pressure in my Left Hand.

And once I sensed Lag...

My focus would be on slinging that dadgum disc as far as I possibly could!

:)

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Personally...

If I was thinking about a body part at all, I would be thinking about my Hips.

And once I got that Pivot activity relegated to subconscious control, I would focus on creating (and sensing) maximum Lag Pressure in my Left Hand.

Exactly .. None of which (personally i pick right hand #3 and left thumb). But the hands. But never the left shoulder and I do understand the Role of the right shoulder 2-H but i do not think about it.

Please read again (first forgeting whatever TGM says)

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If you throw a ball or anything forward , Would u throw more accurately , powerfully and further if u throw them;

1. Forehand Pitching
2. Backhand flat wrist disc throw?

Would you think of

1. your hand and right arms.
2. your right shoulder
3. Your left shoulder

So when you throw something forward for instance , you think about your left shoulder clearing so that your right shoulder so that your right hand can do the work? You can ! But do you prefer to think like that, and is it a better way to think like that?

Or your would think of your right hand and arm, and the rest will provide the best support and momentum to do the job? And your Body will Naturally(by instinct perhaps )tilt so that your right shoulder provide the best support. Thats how your body will react to power. Do you think about it? Maybe yes maybe not.( In actual case without thinking thats what i will do)

and

Again Reread

Yoda

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Personally...

If I was thinking about a body part at all, I would be thinking about my Hips.

Do you think about it? you can. Do you have to? No. ( they are placed in the subconsious level the right shoulder the Hips, they reacted to the hand)

Of course , In any golf swing you are given a choice. But if you are talking Efficiency. I will pick 5-0 , 2-H

If you can get me to hit another 20 yards thinking about clearing the left shoulder, I think I am yours Jim.

By the way, I got a question back for you Jim. How would u setup yourself for the Maximum Trigger Delay by thinking of clearing of left shoulder. I'm curious

Right Handers Need Not Apply

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Originally Posted by nuke99

.. (personally i pick right hand #3 and left thumb).

Nuke,

Unless I missed my guess, Jim is assuming a left-handed frisbee toss. So, the right hand option is not available.

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Originally Posted by Yoda

Nuke,

Unless I missed my guess, Jim is assuming a left-handed frisbee toss. So, the right hand option is not available.

:oops: Noted Master.

A Jedi Wannabe

The frisbee toss would have to be two handed in order for it to be an apt analogy, no?

I think the frisbee is an interesting analogy.

You could not toss a frisbee (well) from the backside of the disc.

The hand grips the target side of the disc and everything lags behind.

Why does it have to be one shoulder or the other? What about a core powered pivot that is centred?

CW

Im not a fan of the frisbee toss idea.

The left arm is above plane for the majority of the stroke, the left arm 'cones' into the inclined plane until it eventually is on the inclined plane at followthrough. The idea when throwing a frisbee is that you throw it on the plane of motion of the left arm, however the left arm is not onplane in the golf stroke, it thus compounds the ignorance of this fact.

If you want a throwing feel... I believe Mr. Kelley said the feel is similar to a underhand softball toss(right handed).

Hey Mathew,

Does the left arm karate chop that seems to be often recommended for swingers have the same problem then?

Its something that i've always struggled to understand because if the left arm is the power source (for the swinger) then it seems natural to uncock down its plane. Any advice on how not to fall into that trap?

Cheers,

Danny

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Originally Posted by danny_shank

Not Mathew . . . But credit to him . . . you could think of it more as a Slinging Back Hand Slap . . .

You are using your pivot to DRAG your inert left arm down to SLAP somebody with the back of your left hand. But you ain't slappin with the power of your arm you're slingin' and slappin' with pivot power.