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airair 11-21-2010 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by brianmontgomery2000 (Post 78801)
Lens implants -- my eyes are too bad for lasik. So somewhere between laser and eye transplant.

I've worn hard contacts for 30+ years, but you make less tears as you get older, making hard contacts less comfortable. (I always say it's ironic that we make less tears as we get older, even though we have more to cry about! :eyes: )

Pretty soon, pilot vision!

Good luck .

brianmontgomery2000 11-21-2010 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by airair (Post 78810)
Good luck .

Thank you!

grantc79 01-25-2011 01:38 PM

I struggled with this until I decided to hit up on the driver and now I've gained yardage and am hitting high low spin bombs.

Others may disagree, but I see nothing wrong with hitting up on the driver as long as you can maintain the flat left wrist.

My checklist is:

Ball position mid left foot
Head stationary well behind the ball
Right arm continually driving outward (though in the end upward)


Whenever I hit down with the driver I was hitting low spinners or high right cutting blocks.

Hitting up produces a high low spin bomb.

brianmontgomery2000 01-25-2011 06:15 PM

Towards to end of the season (Nov.), I was experimenting with hitting up as you describe and caught some very long drives.

Has anyone noticed how low pro's seem to tee the ball? Seems lower than half a ball above the driver face...

Daryti 01-25-2011 09:03 PM

Do you produce a fade when hitting up on the driver as the ball is moved forward, a charateristic of hitting?

grantc79 01-25-2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryti (Post 81861)
Do you produce a fade when hitting up on the driver as the ball is moved forward, a charateristic of hitting?

Yes, basically how I reason it is that the face is going from closed to open at impact....

Thus if I hit it on the upstroke it will be a little more open than usual.

Thus if I shut it a hair more at address it should still be basically square.

Hitting today my normal shot shape was high and dead straight to high with a 5 yard cut.

innercityteacher 01-26-2011 12:57 PM

Things are looking up!
 
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Originally Posted by grantc79 (Post 81867)
Yes, basically how I reason it is that the face is going from closed to open at impact....

Thus if I hit it on the upstroke it will be a little more open than usual.

Thus if I shut it a hair more at address it should still be basically square.

Hitting today my normal shot shape was high and dead straight to high with a 5 yard cut.

Hi Grant. Say, if you were to describe how far up the ball is in your stance when Hitting "up" with reference to the left heel, how would you do so? :doh:


OOPS ! Doing three things at once. Sorry. No Need to respond!

Thanks.

ICT

brianmontgomery2000 01-26-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Daryti (Post 81861)
Do you produce a fade when hitting up on the driver as the ball is moved forward, a charateristic of hitting?

I thought moving forward leads to more draw action as the face is, after low point, now closed to the target line? Unless you are holding off, the angled hinge simultaneously closes and lays back.

When I did the forward/up, I got high draws to fairly straight balls unless I felt like I was "wiping" the club across the ball with a hold off type feel.

grantc79 01-26-2011 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by brianmontgomery2000 (Post 81885)
I thought moving forward leads to more draw action as the face is, after low point, now closed to the target line? Unless you are holding off, the angled hinge simultaneously closes and lays back.

When I did the forward/up, I got high draws to fairly straight balls unless I felt like I was "wiping" the club across the ball with a hold off type feel.

With a swingers horizontal hinge the face opens going back and closes going forward which with a down an out motion should produce a push draw.

With a hitters angled hinge the face should remain more closed going back and lay back at impact which will produce more of a straight shot or fade depending on ball position.

Swinger open to closed, hitter closed to open is how I basically think about it.

So basically if you move the ball position back a touch and HIT down and out you should produce a draw. When you move it forward you should produce a higher cut.



That is where I am basically with a driver I might be a little further forward but not much. Somewhere around my big toe and index toe (lol?).

When I hit the driver poorly its because my right shoulder isn't getting down deep enough or I get quick.

So basically my pre-shot rehearsal with my driver is 5 really relaxed and slow practice swings. Slow back with a low and inside the plane feeling drive of the right shoulder followed by a pop of the right arm.

The slower I can make it and thus the longer I drive that right shoulder and later I fire the right arm the higher and deeper the drives get.

grantc79 01-26-2011 01:47 PM

To go a little further with it, I used to go with a higher lofted driver 10.5 minimum and hit down on it quite a bit. This gave me low launching high spinning rockets down the fairway.

This cost me quite a bit of distance and it got me in trouble because when you spin the ball a lot and you miss it a little the spin will amplify your miss. That 3 yard cut turns into a 20 yard slice OB in a hurry.

Hitting up with less spin means more carry, more roll, and obviously more distance but it also means if I miss it a little and I don't get dead straight ball or slight cut then it isn't amplified 10x by the high spin.

A mishit with 2500 spin on your driver vs. 3300 spin on your driver is a world of difference.


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