Ive heard this from other quarters but does this jibe with Homers longitudinal acceleration , drag loading and aiming point procedure in combo. Wouldn't the Dragging towards the aiming point be a dragging of th butt end prior to the club switching ends? Butt end and Rotated Lag Pressure Point moving downplane straight line (is) towards the aiming point or ball if you so chose. Talking homers aiming point as opposed to Mr Doyle's version.

From my personal experience being a swinger random sweep relEaser for years....longitudinal acceleration , drag loading , aiming point procedure and even float loading made for a profoundly different release and strike on the ball.

He is not versed in Tgm lingo and I try to give him thigs that he can understand one was understanding the basic premise of swinging dragging the butt end longitudinally toward the ball, as we continue it may get more precise and turn into dragging the #3pp towards a more specific aiming point and draggig it towards the inside aft quadrant but for now his new concept of using a stick to whack a ball makes sense to him and is getting results but the big improvement was with his pivot and footwork and a shorter overall swing

Nice .

I started to get the hang of it in Basic then in Acquired Motion , started to feel the longitudinal pull . I learned to love it there and then wanted in my full swing. Hard to do if you've got a Top Arc and End with your hands up around your head. Stopping at Top however , Right Shoulder High...I could do it easily. Another thing I learned to love. No Top Arc , no bounce or run off what ever you want to call it as your Hands when at Top are on the top of the Straight Line Delivery Path. A place you can Drag Longitudinally from. Now I feel the Drag to varying degrees everywhere except putting or little tiny stiff wristed chips.

Lag and drag , momentum cocking the #2 and CF throwing it out. Uh... wish I could hit my 5 iron 210 though.

You should drag PP#3(sweetspot) at the ball. Dragging the butt can lead to the LFW staying on plane too long, preventing throwout from delivering the sweetspot to the ball. In the worst case, the hosel is delivered instead. :(

Doesnt CF Throwout automatically at the bottom of the straight line delivery path assuming you're not holding it off with locked wrists? The Hands are clamps , the wrists are tension free ... for the swinger, for most shots ... long shots ,excluding what Lynn calls "stiff wristed putting and chipping" , well and some punch shots , knockdowns etc. Wish Lynn would talk about grip pressure vs pressure points vs wrist stiffness.... machine adjustments all .

Decoding the word "DRAG"
 

Guys, does the drag happen normally by moving ala MacDonald below the waist or is the mind in the hands seeking a longitudinal pull with some technique?

I have been watching the McHatton dvd's and saw some drills but do not have the proper mental construct yet.

ICT

Ict there is a picture in the book with a parachute attached to the clubhead on the downstroke, in the downstroke use your hips to drag the parachute open

Nice!
 

So Byron Nelson popped the chute big time! Is that automatically the big "Reverse C?"

The Longitudinal drag is what about 2"?

ICT

No reverse c required, Ben hogan popped it big time too. longitudinal dragging continues til the end of the delivery line and then the club switches ends in the release but you will feel as If the hips are dragging that club down plane all the way through the shot

Automatically, sometime after release, but it happens where the hands are, and if you drag the butt at the ball, PP#3 could end up pointing outside the plane line, in which case you could get an automatic shank. :crybaby:

Wow! Slow drag right?
 

All the way?! Wow! Without moving the hands or head at all!?

Thanks! it is more powerful (20 yards) than my Hit, but the Hit is sooooo precise and with the ground being hard...I finally parred the par 5 the other day which is my usual dbl. bogey then birdied the # 1 hcp.!

But Switting, that's the 4 barrel goal.


ICT

So that's how you have time in the swit! Your hip slide is so long you just fire when you hit the edge of your front hip? Quite a running start! No wonder Ted has some guys busting 400 yards!

Switting is not the same as 4-barrel Hitting!!!!!!! Switting is a bad idea, while 4 bbl Hitting is a good one.

OK thanks Joe!
 

I thought switting was a swinging hit.

Thanks for the clarity!

ICT

Ok, the Hitter's right and Swingers right shoulder moves
 

[quote=innercityteacher;91038]I thought switting was a swinging hit.

Thanks for the clarity!

ICT



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haven't played in a few weeks just been working on the things greg has me doing, been working at home alot in the mirror really getting some good mechanics going he has me feeling the hips blasting the left arm off the chest with less arm swing in the backswing, pivot driven, hitting every club in the bag better than ever and with less effort.


Shot 69 today without birdieing any of the par 5s, just tried to do what greg told me, had 5 birdies that were all tap ins. Using a brand new driver and with no warmup bucket missed only 3 fairways and avg. 312.85 yds off the tee . my bunker game is better than ever, irons better than ever, wedges, putter, driver, course management. As long as I trust greg and do exactly what he tells me even though sometimes it is frustrating, I am constantly progressing and golf gets easier almost everyday, the golf course lost today. I have the best golf instruction in the world and now i feel i have my equipment dead on how i want it, I'm really excited where my game is heading at this point.

p.s. switting is not in the book, neither is kinetic chain

Congratulations Whip!
 

It must be very satisfying! Are you referring to Greg Mchatton? I have his videos!

ICT

no Greg Smith GSEM in Phoenix pure golfing machine

Greg Smith!
 

Thanks, will look him up on You Tube.

I don't think he has a youtube channel

Whip my Mp 32's are worn out , trying to chose between 59's and 69's. How do you like your 69's ? They look prettier that's for sure! The MB's look awesome but feel hasher than a mizuno.

ob, I went with the blades because i hate any offset, even a tiny bit. go with the mp69s you will not regret it, i really like the wedges too, they match up with the irons perfect. my wedges feel like my irons and vis versa. I always hated chipping with a short iron because they looked so different from my wedges, these blade short irons are so clean, i feel comfortable chipping with them.

Whip's Witb
 

WITB

MOI darkside 455cc 6.5* accuflex vizion 55xx
Sonartec np99 15* Harrison Pro 2.5 80x
Adams Idea pro 20* Aldila VS proto 80x
Mizuno MP69 4-pw Dynamic Gold X100
Mizuno MPT11 50*,54*,58* Dynamic Gold Spinner
Lopaka offset NO LOFT
all medallist blue grips, cheapest, best grips ever
Bridgestone B330-S

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I hit some 69's today with x100's nice combo. What the heck is that last thing in your photos ... an egg flipper ?

This lopaka round putter ROLLS the rock pure. Some people call it the Guinness can without the nitrogen ball of course. I Highly suggest lopaka putters great weight great quality and a better roll than any putter out there even the yes putters

OB, I've got the 68's from 7 down and 53's in the 6 and up. You'll LOVE the 69's.

Ya Mizunos traditionally have had weaker lofts than other companies but the 69s are more modern lofts which I have been waiting for. Thanks to the stuff Greg smith and I are working on I'm hitting the ball better than I have in my entire life hitting pw 160 with absolutely no effort and complete body control.

Guys need an affordable shaft rec.
 

Guys, my Titleist ZB's are a bit stiff, but feel great and deadly accurate. I Hit slowly and I could only get my 7 iron about 140. I need a shaft for a senior hitter that's affordable! I have a senior graphite shaft in my driver and I am reaching 240 on average with my nice measured hit!

ICT

I just received my Wilson Staff FG 68 with x100. They were supposed to be bent 4* flat from factory but looks more like 7 flat to me. Anyway I have long arms and like to get the hands underneath me so they seemed to fit quite well. It was love at first impact. For some reason I was immediately more comfortable and consistent with these than my good ol' MP 32s which has S300.

I haven't tested turf interaction yet, since mats were used on the range today. The sole is a bit more narrow than MP32 and leading edge perhaps a notch sharper. Head is smaller and slightly less offset. But they seemed to be plenty forgiving anyway.

I was originally heading for MP 68 since MP69 doesn't come in lefty, but MP68 is already out of stock, so I took a chance on these. And they are going straight into the bag.

You might want to check them out - seriously :cool:

x100 is a big jump in consistency over the s300 if you have the swingspeed, I found out that s400 and x100 are essentially exactly the same shaft except that the s400 is slightly heavier.

four degrees flat???? can you reach the plane with the right forearm?

4 degrees either way isn't a lot compared to how different people are built. about +/- 1.5" on grip or r elbow height.

Ya I guess you are right

Well after Gregs verbal bitch slap he finally got through to me to quit worrying about power. I went out today and felt more relaxed than ever it was the most calm feeling in the world. Just shot the best score of my life and it could have been four shots better missed a 6 footer for eagle on the par 5 eighth hole after a 365 yd drive had pw in. With no warmup bucket no putts before the round and a single broken tee I just shot the most effortless 66. If you are in the Phoenix area and you aren't taking lessons from Greg Smith you are out of your mind. I'm at a new level now with the swing and mentally. I was able to let the mechanics go and only think about where I wanted the ball to go. Birdied the last hole to shoot 66 you better believe I got in a nice fist pump as the putt dropped with authority. Weiskopf design golf course par 72 over 7200 yds this course is no pushover but today it was beat down.
When I came to Greg smith I was a 8-10 hdcp today I shot 66 I attribute it all to gregs instruction and homers information

Impressive!
 

Very nice Whip!

ICT

Great ! Congratulations !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnQtUzqByZw as always have to work on extensor especially in the downstroke and release, where my left arm tends to bend a little bit losing what would otherwise be a deeper release because of a straighter left arm

Just saw this , thanks Bambam, Bernt. Still thinking about things. Im down to 69s or MB's . Got a 710 MB 6 iron coming to goof with. Got every shaft known to man in my trunk. Got 4 mp 32 6 iron heads now to shaft up. Got myself totally confused, no idea.

Ive never played game improvement irons but ... most guys on tour do these days. Nobody plays 69's , quite a few play the 712 MB's. The MBs look awesome. Once i get them similarly shafted and gripped I suspect the feel of the mizunos will probably win the day. TBD.

Had a mizzy fitting session that reco'd S300 but the KBS tour stiff had a nice feel to it. Seemed to fly nice.

Don't want to change away from Mizzy and DG s300 . I need a golf equipment therapist ... Dr of golf ho 'ery. DH , designated ho. I don't change irons much , I'm not used this.

Bernt I played Staffs for about 25 years, please don't confuse me any further. Innercity, don't get sucked into super whippy senior shafts by salesmen. You'll spray them all over the place and they'll feel seductively buttery IMO. (the shafts not the salesmen)

Sorry for the digression Whip.

That's what I thought too on but if u look at the bags of quite a few guys who are not sponsored for the their equipment they are playing the 69s titleists will be an inferior feel trust me, also stay away from the kbs unless u wanna launch it super high with high spin which I don't, I have had the kbs stiff and x stiff and dgs300 and x100 the verdict is the x100s have a much better flight feel better more consistent. Go with the 69s the last iron set you will ever need to buy i like how they look more every time I see them in the bag or look down on them when I'm hitting, I think it's the perfect blade.

Doesn't look so bad.

Slightly bent is ok , hyperextended ram rod straight or beyond straight when I goofed with it hurt my left elbow. Slightly bent can absorb more shock at impact. Something I had to do until my elbow healed. Could the bend be compensational for an old injury? Probably not, but its something that happened to me.

Interesting thanks Whip. Guys on the PGA Tour playing 69's? Nice to see for Mizuno fans. Didn't know the KB s launched higher with more spin compared to DG's.

What do you think about testing irons/shafts out on a Flightscope or Trackman? Hmmmm.

Once you get used to Mizzy its hard to leave the feel behind and go with other sticks.