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Will the real Annikan Ballstriker Please Stand Up?
Ballstriker sorry Skywalker,
Dude you are the K-I-N-G A-D Whammy on the pics and graphics . . . Could you do us all a favor based on your precision analysis of Vjay's alignments and tell us the GEOMETRY that you look for through the different stages in the Stroke when examining a player's stop frame video? I'm gonna crank up my video camera and see where I could stand a little tweeking . . . or may be an OVERHAUL! Thanks man! Bucket |
Bucket...you are way too flattering...just doing what I know and love dude!!!!
For you "poo-pooers" of MORAD out there...check this out!!!  Mac starts on the Hands only Plane until have way up then shifts to the Elbow plane and as aresult of the lengthening of his stroke locates the Turned Shoulder Plane even with the Rotated Shoulder Turn Component....then pending on ball flight...in this case shifts back down to the elbow plane during downstroke and impact...then after folow-through begins to shift it up to the Turned Shoulder Plane and perhaps on this shot slightly above....Definitley NOT Zero Shift!!! But where it counts... NOW you may not like or understand his backstroke pattern... BUT let's TALK... start down,downstroke, release, impact,follow-through and finish... SHOW ME BETTER!!! AS |
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Another super pic :cool: |
as- another great educational sequence ... thank you for the pics - really great stuff that i find greatly enhances the accessibility of the information presented ... on a hitting thread you mentioned the importance of the location/direction of the FLV lead hand and #3 PP, do you have any isolated face on pics of the lead and trail hands that illustrate where the hands need to be facing? thanks again
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Thanks for the pic
Once again thanks for the pic.
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Annikan Rocks
Great pics. What are the keys to make plane shifts less - as per Homer - "hazardous"?
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Plane shifts are not as hazardous as you think..Some are dangerous while others are appropriate for altering trajectory and/or curvature....The Path of the Hands and the Path of the Clubhead,....When,Where,and, How the Power Packsge is Assembled and Loaded,Pivot Spacing and Sequence are the keys for Plane Shifts...
Golf is a Three Lane Freeway...that should've been named more appropriately a Three Lane Speedway... BTW Every Joint/Segment/Component has a Range of Motion, Style of Motion, Speed of Motion, and a Sequence of Motion to produce a Plane Shift...that explanation is way too deep for this forum.... |
I'm a newbie. Can someone please tell me what MORAD means? Thanks.
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Looks like the Hand Plane is a set-up preference since it is abandon during take-away. I can see how it feels comfortable and strengthens the feel of accumulators #2 and #3. What does Mac like about the set up? |
6B ...we'll discuss that at certain time and a certain place! Not here..but I'll see you there and then!!!
Newbie...MORAD is an acronym that has changed several times MORAD ...Mac OGrady Research And Development MORAD ...McCord OGrady Research And Development MORAD....Mankinds Objective Research And Development ...Bantem Ben...has it changed since I'm no longer in the loop |
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Great Pictures!!! A lot of precision in that Stroke!! OK... Rotated Shoulder Turn... Strong grip... Wrist Action? Start Down? Initiated by what? |
Start Down from the Ground up....
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I'm posting VJ's Mess vs Mac's hear cause my good friend the Bucket asked for it..Now compare ...Who's the real ballstriker???
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Big Difference!
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There's are obvious differences here. Their RIGHT FOREARMS, and Right Elbow/Right Hip relationships are a couple of the most apparent. Nick Price might be another good one to see the right forearm on plane. Jodie Mudd... is probably pretty good also. McCord? |
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check out Mac's hand plane set up on this: http://www.artcadeonline.com/artwork...810243192L.jpg it is mac- here is the other link: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN |
6B....W:cool: ay to Cool
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no its still makinds objective research and development and mac says just as homer had in the past if you can think of anything hes missing or has wrong let him know so he can get it in there.
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Thanks BantemBen...You're right...Mac is always lookin to improve...Amazing...Aren't we all after the same prize...just going about with a different perspective...
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What About Zaben?
I recall an old Golf Digest article on O'Grady from the late '80s or early '90s that mentioned that the "M" stood for "Manjikian", a dentist friend of O'Grady's, and that MORAD was the acronym for Manjikian-O'Grady Research and Development.
Whatever happened to Manjikian, and what was his role in MORAD? RT |
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I thought the M stood for McCord... Gary McCord. I believe that what MORAD stands for has actually changed slightly several times. |
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Ballstriker . . . Where would a player setting up on the Hands Only Plane establish the Right Forearm Flying Wedge alignments? Is there a preference? Or would it dependend on Loading and/or Hinging employeed? In your Library of Strokes is there anyone who's alignments would approach Mac's? GO! Go! Gadget Fog-Buster! B |
The Secret is to keep the right wrist level as you lower down to the HandsOnly plane and stand further from the ball so as to increase Waist Bend and in Mac's Case a Deep Knee Bend...The Flying wedge alignment could not be established until the plane of the clubshaft reached the plane of the right forearm without coking the right wrist...in this case...just prior to 1/2 way up...
Warning... Most players make the huge mistake like I did... is by lowering to the Hands Only plane by Cocking Both Wrists and holding the plane of Both arms Vertical...Both a huge NO-NO!!! Mac kept telling me my wrists(plural) were too cocked and my arms too vertical...What it looks like and what it is ...two different animals!!! |
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as- is there a biomechanical advantage to increased waist bend (mac looks at least 45 degrees!) and when you do bend that much how do you determine how far to stand from the ball? also, re: vertical arms being a no-no, it appears that mac's arms are brought in a bit (from the vertical) toward his body (as opposed to reaching out toward the ball) and with a bend to his right elbow - is that what it is? thanks ... |
Mac is a great ball-striker, and an accomplised teacher of tour level players.
His MORAD is his particular 'deal,' like Hardy's in One-Pane vs. Two Plane, like Ballards 7 common denominators. All I ever said is this: Get 100 average players and a national TV audience, & I'll teach him into retirement. :) |
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However, by Mr. K's definition he hasn't achieved the Right Forearm Flying Wedge at address. But he seems to have established the Right Forearm and Clubshaft in the same plane very well by the third frame huh? And the cradle will rock . . . |
Bucket...You're all over it like "white on rice"
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What's the advantage of setting hands on the hands only plane and reaching out and bending over more, when your hands will be returning to elbow plane/turned shoulder plane at impact?
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Bucket.....
You're figuring this out too quickly Clue: Radius of Gyration and Moment of Inertia...is smaller Don't bother looking it up in the little yellow book.... Here I'll save you the effort: :cool: Radius of Gyration def: The distance(radius) from an axis of rotation to where the Mass of an object(The club) would have to be concentrated to create the same moment of inertia of the entire object about that axis: meassured in units of length or expressed as meters in SI; a scalar quantity - Biomechanics of Sport and Exercise 2nd edition, Peter M. McGinnis,p.394 Take a baseball bat and swing it from the handle...now flip it around a swing it from it's barrell...the overall mass of the bat is the same however the concentration or distribution of its mass is different thus affecting it's moment of inertia..which is the difference of what you felt swing the bat from either end...This is major reason why Mac sets-up the way he does ... Lower hands brings in this distribution of mass along the adjustable radius where as raised hands moves this distribution of mass further out and its moment of inertia....Affecting the Moment Arm.... |
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as- i think i'm beginning to understand how the low hands position reduces the radius of gyration and reduces the MOI but i'm still lost on the (not) vertical arm position deal ... how should the arms hang and is the primary benefit of this non-vertical condition also a reduction in the MOI? |
The arms appear verical/slightly in due to the increased waist bend ,knee bend, and a sharp #3 Accumulator with the shaft located in the base of the fingers ...which is BTW ...lower in the hand than the recommended heel pad...remamber..this is key... the arms are OUT from the Torso(That is bent forward 40-45 degrees and if the arms are"vertical" means they are OUT from the waist bend 40-45 degrees even though they appear to hang IN....Now do you see??? You ask great questions....Sincerely!!!
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ok, think i'm making progress here but where is descarte when u need him, let me know if i have this right ... so if the torso is inclined ~45 deg to the horizontal then the arms would be vertical to the horizontal if they were in an acute 45 deg to the torso, now if the correct condition for the arms is ~90 deg to the torso then the arms would hang an additional 45 deg which is ~135 deg to the horizontal ... is this correct or have mucked this up? ... thanks again
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I think...you're reading me ...BUT...it isn't the Arms as in plural ...perhaps the right forearm on the downstroke which would require a shift....
BTW I like your description of the arms acute 45 degrees to the Torso comment...now were looking at segment angles as well as joint angles...nice...very nice... Keep it up with the Quantitative Analysis...it only provides strength to the Qualitative Analysis of TGM |
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Much Obliged...Thanx for making me run my own computer....
Segment angles...reminds me of the Power Package....Hmmmmm:eek: |
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Go for it.....Chapter 6 is nice.....:D
"Teatherball"..... That's the deal with Mac.... Especially Jodie Mudd's move.... Reminds me of.... "Teatherball"....... Yeah ... Me likey...... Look in the glossary.. Where's EC ??? He'll show up sooon....... He's one of the posse!!!! Arc Velocity versus Angular Velocity...two different but related activities |
teatherball, eh ... hmmm ...
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Eureka!
Now I see it, clear as can be! In the sequences posted, from release through follow-through, Mac's right forearm looks to be tethering around the spine...Vijay's is just all over the place. Annakin, now I see why you classified Vijay's move as XXX rated! I can also see (at least I think I can) why Mac's set-up works for him. However, would this be something you would recommend that mere mortals copy, or without sufficient knowledge would that be sailing into dangerous seas?
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