Amazing changes
 

I'm going to post a few before and after photos of one of Yoda's students. Each pair is a before and after shot during a total motion stroke. I was simply the computer operator, so I'll let Yoda tell you about these awesome changes.

Wow...good stuff!

And these pictures demonstrate why so many are making the journey to The Swamp. Excellent pictures----these are worth MORE than a thousand words.

Great pics!! Do you know what drills they worked on to get the club on plane?
Alex

Nice work
 

Lynn loves a level right hand, doesn't he? Good stuff, Can almost hear it, too!

Fred McCrary
 

This is the same Fred McCrary from the Superbowl Champion New England Patriots, who presently plays fullback for the Atlanta Falcons. He's one of the nicest men you'll meet. But, after meeting Yoda, he had a nice swing to match. The photos in this post and the one to follow should be viewed in sets of two and from left to right. First the Before and then the After. Quite a difference, wouldn't you say!

three more
 

More of Fred...

Permanent Progress
 

Thanks, Ted, for putting these photos up.

Everybody please note that Fred (immediately above) and Larry (the first student in this thread) had exactly the same problem: Both were way Off Plane in the Backstroke (and consequently, also in the Downstroke). Interestingly, though, their respective problems were in opposite directions! Fred was way above Plane at the Top whereas Larry was way below Plane. Not to worry: At the end of our time together, both were On Plane. And both had a Finish Swivel. :)

No 'quick fix.'

No 'band-aids.'

Just The Golfing Machine as written by Homer Kelley and taught by a competent Instructor in adherence to its Principles. :cool:

Most important, a Student-Teacher relationship established in advance.

Grounded in reality...

With a mutual commitment to long-term progress.

Great stuff Lynn.

The first guys stands a little close, no?

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How does McCrary hit it?

explanation please.
 

It appears the only point at which their trailing arms line up with the shaft is at impact and beyond. (perhaps startup)

This seems to be at odds with swings of the great hitters, and advise of just about every other instructor I can think of.

Are you saying that coming from inside is a power leak?

Rumbler

The On Plane Right Forearm
 

The Right Forearm can only be On Plane when the Right Elbow is On Plane. And, on the Downstroke, that occurs only during the Impact Interval (Release to Follow-Through).

Regarding "coming from the inside," Golf Stroke Geometry mandates that the Clubhead travel Down and Out to its Low Point (1-L-13). In other words, from the 'inside' toward the Plane Line (1-L-10) as directed by the Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point.

New student
 

I'll let Yoda give you the 411 on his new student.

Alignment Golf
 

Gerard, a 7-handicap, today left San Diego to pay me a visit in The Swamp. He has a fine Swinging Pattern with a very smooth, even Tempo. Lots to like. But, he had also reached a plateau from which there seemed to be no further progress, and he came looking for answers.

I met him in the parking lot, and after shaking hands, we spent the next half hour getting no further than ten feet from the trunk of my car. Hinge Machine, dowels, Impact Bag, Golf Clubs, Flail models...all were littering the ground around us. More than one passing motorist did a double-take, but I am pleased to report that The Golfing Machine came alive for Gerard this sunny afternoon down South. :)

His basic procedure through the Ball was to lean back and throw the Club past a bending Left Wrist. His Left Shoulder would move well back from its Address Location (essentially over his Left Foot) to approximately the middle of his Stance. Consequently, he was no longer in a position to drive down and through the Ball and was forced to 'sweep' everything. When he's 'on,' he can play. But when he's 'off,' the Ball can go anywhere. His Short Shot Pattern was identical, and he found it impossible to get that sharply accelerating, downward blow that is the hallmark of a truly fine Ball Striker.

By the end of our second hour together, all that had changed. The Ball was now located slightly further back in the Stance. His Head no longer Swayed back or Bobbed down. The excessive Downstroke Axis Tilt was gone. The Hands, instead of being in the middle of his Body at Impact, were now under his Left Shoulder and visually over his Left Foot (well in front of the Ball). The Clubshaft, instead of leaning backard through Impact was now leaning Forward. And at Low Point (opposite the Left Shoulder), it was In Line with the Left Forearm (instead of making a "Y" with the two Forearms).

The photo on the right was of an Acquired Motion Pitch (Right Forearm level to the ground on the Backstroke), hence the more narrow Stance. However, Gerard demonstrated the same action in his Total Motion (with a short Iron) as well. The Ball loved these new alignments and told us all about it:

CRACK!!

Great combination of text and image really hitting home the point - it is so easy to slip back into an impact position shown on the left and wonder where the zip went. Explains a couple of poor shots today very nicely. Thanks for the simple reminder.

Up and Right Planes
 

these on plane swings seem very upright compared to the shaft plane--aren't clubs designed to work from the shaft plane angle?? Does one need to adjust one's clubs to swing on the turned shoulder plane ??

club changes
 

the turned shoulder plane looks and is steeper than the shaft-elbow plane for which most clubs are designed--how much does one need to change the clubs lie angle ??

my guess is as much as they need to. not everyones turned shoulder plane angle is the same.

This is an amzing change...thanks to Lynn showing us the right forearm angle of approach..we changed this kids life!!!

Plane Angles and Club Lie Suitability
 

The cambered sole with its rounded toe and heel permit the ready positioning of most Clubs between the Elbow and Shoulder Planes.

Annikan,

Can you clarify the right forearm angle approach?

Matt

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Draw a line down the right forearm on the picture on the right....notice it would intersect the ground at an angle that points forward of the ball....16-18 inches.....Picture on the right would have the RFANOAP at the Ball...bad looking picture..:cool:


Someone like to add some graphics?

Annikan,

Ok, thanks, that makes perfect sense. My question then is how you get someone to alter this forearm angle at impact. Is it based on the motion of the right elbow in the downswing?

Matt

Go to impact fix and Look...Look....Look..down the right forearm angle of appraoch to the ground...see how it appears forawar of the ball and cross line..this is the angle of approach for the right forearm...then look back to a mirror to your right and see how the right forarm is poining at the baseline this on-plane right forearm is the angle of attack of the right forearm.....

So if I were to see your student's right forearm down-line before it would be very steep and after more shallow? If so, were these the means to achieving a much better impact position?

Matt

Actually,

I can occur much sooner.

Of course, Lynn knows that.

Homer Kelley Meets Annikan Skywalker
 

I love this photo, Annikan.

It is the personification of The Golfing Machine and the Impact alignments of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (through Impact, also known as the #3 Accumulator with its Flat and Level Left Wrist) and its relationship with the On Plane Right Forearm Flying Wedge (with its Bent and Level Right Wrist).

It is the perfect illustration of Homer Kelley's words from his Fall 1981 Master Class:

"The #3 Accumulator [Angle] should be constant. If you have your Right Forearm On Plane -- behind the Clubshaft -- this Angle will be constant. There's nothing that will change it. You're coming in like this [Homer demonstrates per David's photo above] as though there were no left arm."

Was it Luck?....

Perhaps..

But when you are seeking proper alignments and relationships instead of trying to get the right position...the positions "magically apppear...via the right forearm"..get it?;)


Thanks Lynn for the compliment..but more importantly thanks for the training at Pine Needles that allowed this to be implemented!!!

What if the right forearm is above...a sharper #3 ?


Accumulator

Annikan,

I'll 2nd Yoda's comments - that is one solid looking impact position you have.

With a sharper #3, would there be potential for more clubhead speed (assuming the same hand speed) due to a faster "overtaking rate" from the larger angle? But there may be less "support" for impact with the forearm not directly behind the shaft which could contribute to the net effect on the overall distance the ball would go.

I would also assume less consistent results with a larger #3 angle?

CG

how can i find the drills for the correct plane

thanks

Dowel drills...go to the Archives or the Gallery...you'll find plenty of nuggets there....

How do you guys shoot your down the line camera angles? The second video shoot is inconclusive at best, being from a very different camera angle.

I'd assume a good way to do it would be to centre the body (not sure which part would be ideal.....prolly the right shoulder or something) AND the target in the camera.

Donna Andrews
 

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I believe Annikan has a picture of Danna Andrews in a similar Right arm position. She has won several L.P.G.A. events.

Is this another useful VARIATION, or something one would not want to try?

Lagster...

Although Jack Lumpkin has been her coach for years...I have spent time with Donna...Tip: This personal footage!!! Here's the pic:




Now why would she listen to someone who does it like this?




Clue: He's not in the Golf Digest Top 100, 500, 1000, 10000000...;)


BTW Jack Lumpkin is a helluva good man and knows a few things!!!!

Hello everybody,
My first post ever,Love the site alot of great info.I noticed on the photos that either the student moved or the camera was moved two different angles making it look like student is coming more from inside on the comparison. Just a observation.

Almost - Live from the Swamp
 

Michael,

Thanks for the observant first post and welcome!

I watched as Ted gave my Dad and Wife a lesson last month. He has a very nice camera set up outside his studio office at "the swamp". On a normal day, it's like a Doctors office with patients hanging out in the "waiting room" while he is working on his current student project.

The tripod is set at hands high and typically he shoots the downline sequence between the target line and the hands at setup. At least that was my observation.

So at the beginning of the lesson he is working with the student for a few minutes and shoots video of their "normal" swing. Then the camera is detached from the tripod and taken back to the computer for analysis.

There is typically a nice long discussion of what is seen on video and why. Then what he is going to fix and why. Then he takes the camera back out to the range and works on the fixes. Once he is satisfied that the student has made the intended change, the camera is put back on the tripod, quickly adjusted for the new position and the taping begins. Once the swing change is captured back to tape, he goes back to the computer with the student and analyses the change; before and after.

At the end of a long day or between lessons, he posts the raw material and we get the benefit of the nearly instant communication that this medium; The Internet, provides. If there are a few changes in the before and after camera position, it's due to the dynamic nature of teaching "us" amateurs how to swing like the pros...within an hour.

Bagger

Fred McCrary -- A 5-Handicap In the Making
 

Fred McCrary, offensive fullback for the Atlanta Falcons, called tonight...he was back home from a celebrity golf tournament in South Florida and time with friends at the Superbowl. The off-season is when Fred 'gets it done,' and he's rarin' to go.

Fred has been playing golf for six years -- he started in San Diego when he was with the Chargers -- 4 1/2 of which preceded our chance meeting Woodmont C.C., Canton, Georgia, in the summer of 2005. I had just finished up a day's worth of work with V.J. Trolio, GSEM, PGA, who had come over from his home club in West Point, Mississippi, to do some preliminary work on our soon-to-be released videos. Anyway, with V.J. headed down I-75 South toward I-20 West, I decided to hit a few balls at the far end of the range.

That's when Fred came on the scene. He introduced himself and said he had been watching me. He was very enthusiastic and asked how I was getting the results he was seeing. Before you know it, I was watching Fred hit balls.

It's what I do.

:)

Fred was a 19 handicap at the time.

Today, he plays competitively at 9. That's a 10-stroke reduction (52 percent) in less than 18 months.

It goes without saying that Fred is a 'driven' person. Once he discovered his possibilities, his goal immediately became to break 80. He did so twice last year -- a highlight was his 79 at Harbor Town (the PGA TOUR stop on Hilton Head Island) at an Atlanta Falcons organization outing -- and his 'PB' (Personal Best) is now 77.

This year, his goal is a 5-handicap, and his call tonight was to schedule time on Thursday.

I can do that. :)

Let the games continue.

:salut:

David,

Are not Donna and Sergio doing a "CP"?

level hands
 

Hi Yoda. could you please explain level hands to me.Sorry for the dumb question,but if I dont ask I,ll never know.Thank you in advance.

By the way,watched your vids on basic and aquired motion,love em,I have started to practice these,will be a slow journey but should be worth it....TERRY