Swinger Level Frozen Right Wrist?
 

OK . . . Is the Level Right Wrist as important for the Swinger? What does "frozen" mean? Does this work with "soft" wrists?

Holla back. . .

I would of thought so. Ok its not quite as 'Frozen' as a Hitter but it still needs to be maintain its bend (once one is in the backswing to impact and beyond)
My main fault with the right wrist is that it bends back more than it needs to and for me that leads to cocking the right wrist and flipping. So in my case I have to think and feel a 'Frozen' right wrist.
Alex

YES!

I believe Level is everything for both Swingers and Hitters. Level is being On Plane. Level is not being cocked.

Frozen means the wrist only works in the Plane it is assigned. Left- vertical and Right –Horizontal. A Hitter’s Flying Wedge assembly is more rigid than a Swingers. And the Right Wrist in both remains BENT and LEVEL without the intent of flattening it. A Swinger’s Right Wrist will flatten after impact due to the natural of the violent throw-out. It can even come off like VJ- no problem. Just be Level.
“Frozen” is not stiff and hard- just assigned to a Plane. Frozen from the wrong plane and soft within.

I agree Mike.

Indeed - proper wrist positions (level), flying wedges and a magic right forearm = G.O.L.F

They make the imperatives and essentials significantly easier to obtain
per 1-L.

Played golf this afternoon on a links style course near the Atlantic Ocean called McCullough’s Emerald Golf Links with a stiff wind blowing from all directions. First time on the course and couldn't buy a putt- shot an 81.
I switched to a Hit Stroke to keep the ball low and straight (one pollie) using the FIRST paragraph of 1-L to feed my coconut. Read it. Machine Feel, Left Shoulder Hinge, Right Arm piston, Adjustable Clamps with two-way power ACTUATORS (the Flying Wedges), etc.

This is the last sentence of the first paragraph: The more of this translation a player can accomplish the more understanding the procedures become.

1-L, the machine rocks. Feed it.

right wrist
 

Is it really possible to keep the right wrist completely level throughout the swing while cocking the left wrist? Doesn't the right wrist cock up a bit as well? I've tried to keep my right wrist level throughout and just can't. Unless anyone has any suggestions how to improve I'm not sure I physically can do it.

Believe it!

You can definitely do it. Just about anybody can assuming they don't have any physical impairments.

The right elbow bend cocks the left wrist. Right wrist stays in its bent/level uncocked position. The left wrist simply loads in the last three fingers and you will have a conventional, shaft parallel to the ground top of swing if you are young and flexible (and if you aren't, no worries). The job of the right hand is to feel pressure point *3 load and sustain it.

Years ago I had to purchase a right wrist brace to believe it.

I think you are maybe looking in the wrong place for the real cause of your problem.

Its my bet that you are actively over-cocking your left wrist.

Just hold your left arm straight out in front of you and parallel to the ground, fingers pointing directly away from you, the back of the hand facing your target and the palm facing away from the target.

You should, at this point find that the the top of your thumb and and forearm are basically in line - or "level".

Now just make a fist. Viola! Your wrist is cocked, nothing more and nothing less. You do not have to add to it and cock your right wrist in the process.

Burner thanks for your post. I don't see or feel my left wrist cock just by making a fist the way you described. But this has been a great thread for me. What I think I might need to work on to keep my right wrist level is adjusting my left hand grip: I think I might be gripping too high in the palm, need to get the shaft more under the heel to get a more free hinging action. I'm going to experiment on the range this weekend.
Woody

The Thinking Approach
 

Just a heads up...
Careful with that one Chief. Putting the shaft more under the heel of your left hand is making an adjustment for more accumulator #3 (roll power) and effects clubface control. It has little effect on the #2 accumulator (velocity power) or wristcock which is clubhead control.
Increasing the #3 angle will require that you begin the roll sooner and widen the angle of approach.

I know it seems intuitive that wristcock is somehow increased by putting the shaft lower in the grip, but through impact you are transferring all of the wristcock momentum into clubface roll and the #3 angle you are proposing has consequences. :)

. good stuff man!

Also..

10-6-a...The Elbow Plane allows maximum #3 Accumulator requiring earlier Release per 6-N-0.

and since the elbow plane intersect the belt buckle.. the grip is stronger than usual in order for a level left wrist.. and a Sweep release... also facilitating a more behind the shaft Pressure point preparation....

and the Pressure point feeling more "under the shaft " for swinging..

Correct?

Nuke,

Yes - Widening the Angle of Approach is accomplished by shallowing the plane.

Back to topic - My personal opinion about "frozen" is that once the right wrist is in position, it stays quiet. I think some players can handle a loosey goosie right wrist because they have enough pivot coordination and lag feel to bring it through impact bent and level.

For uncoordinated dorks like me, I need to feel the right wrist very stationary. Just one less thing to worry about.

I am with you there. I don't have the talent or the coordination to be able to handle a loosey goosie right wrist in my swing.
Alex

Woody,

I guess that is my point. You don't see or feel it because you don't realise that the wrist, in the condition I described, is "cocked".

You might also benefit, I know I did, from slackening off on your right hand grip.
Try keeping your right thumb off the club and your index finger just resting against the back of the grip rather than curled around it. You will still experience the support of PP#1 & PP#3 on the club shaft without your right hand overriding your left hand's club face control.

Shortening your back swing will also help you to guard against adding to the wrist cock as you move from the top of your swing to the end.

Cut the back swing off at the top - i.e hands at around the height of your right shoulder.

[Bagger] I think you are correct and I'm actually relieved because my left hand grip is one connection to the club that I feel very good about. I don't think my answer lies there. The shaft does lie somewhere between my palm and under the heel of my left hand and from my interpretation of what little Homer says on this in TGM this is where it should be most of the time, at least in a normal full swing. Still I am looking, looking, looking at how I can keep my right wrist level throughout a full swing and am studying your advice and others on this thread: great stuff here. I have much to learn and experiment with. I believe in the magic of the right forearm and my right wedge / wrist is wobbly at best. Developing...

[Burner] maybe I'm misunderstanding your description. I can make a fist while keeping my left wrist level and my wrist doesn't cock. In fact that's more of an uncocking motion to me or the fist is just pointed down. To cock from level I need to curl / squeeze my fingers toward my palm and it cocks up. Is this what you mean? I think one must be able to see the wrist in a cocked position. If I don't see my wrist cocked then it's not cocked because I know the difference between level, cocked, and uncocked. I'm not trying to be argumentative but you've completely lost me.

When I start out with a level left wrist and then make a really tight fist the left wrist cocks up. If I make a loose fist, the left wrist doesn't cock. Make a fist like you are trying to squeeze water out of a crow bar, that should do the trick. Unless you are Leslie Nielsen this would not describe the recommended grip pressure in a golf swing!

Matt

Wood..

I got a funny feeling either your Std GRIP is too weak. or the club is too upright for you or you started Uncocked instead of Level to start with... thats why you are having wierd problem or maybe your left hand grip is aligned wrongly.. too much in the fingers , too loose left finger..to experience the wrong thing.

With the correct grip , flying wedge and correct RFT.. the pressure point 1 2( left thumb and last 3 finger) should load when first bending the right wrist and flattening the left wrist.. IF it doesn't your grip is wrong.. after loading 1 2 .. bend your right elbow up and down... and try to point that left thump towards you when you bend your elbow

Hi Woody,

In a word, "Yup".

Its just the same as laying your forearm on a table with an open palm - back of the hand facing left and palm facing right; fingers pointing directly away from you.

Make that fist and cock that wrist.:)