Lifetime TGM'er
 

This man has been a lifetime seeker of the truth. He's been involved in TGM for years. He gave me the short list :shock: of all the lessons that he had taken. He told me that he had NEVER seen himself on video with a Flat Left Wrist, until today. (hence the Amazing Change)

We worked for 45 minutes yesterday, and this is the video from the beginning of the lesson today.

Wasting Time
 

Beauty Luke!

3-B "Eons of manhours are lost trying to substitute effort for technique and trying to eliminate effect instead of cause".
Read "fix em" here.

Congrats to Student and Teacher for taking the only shortcut to true success. I'm sure he can sleep much better now with the knowledge he ain't just fixed...he's cured.

Well done!

He looks completely transformed!

What was the secret?

you won't believe it...
 

See if you can find the differences from the pics. You won't believe how he changed it.

Hint: It's really far away from what you would expect.

Was there squeeling involved?

Is that the same club? Looks like his stance is quite a bit narrower.

nope
 

I didn't have to use the taser, like I did with you. ;)

hummm...
 

I think the first might have been an 8 iron and the second might have been a SW.

You spell that TEASER . . .

Taser
 

So that's your secret! It's about time you let that one out of the bag. Glad to hear you've taken the Golfing Machine to a new level. So I'm confused:confused1 is the secret of golf - Lag? or the Taser? I'm thinking the Taser comes first, then the lag! Of course, assuming a competent instructor. Are you worried now that this is out that your lesson schedule might slow down?

P.S. Nice final round in the tournament! Looked like just two holes and probably one swing on each hole prevented you from going real low!

1
Ball position is more towards centre.
The hands are further away from the head
The Left arm is just above horizontal and not as high.
The Club has not gone back as far
He is standing taller with less knee flex in the right leg.
The left hip is more over the left leg.
2
The left hip and shoulder are more advanced.
3
The club is lagging further behind.
The left shoulder is higher
Left arm appears straighter.
Hips still more advanced.
4
Right wrist has more bend
Club has more lag.
Left shoulder is still higher
Left shoulder, left arm, left wrist, left hip, left knee, left leg and left foot lie in a straight line.
5
Shaft is vertical
Left wrist is still flat
Right wrist still bent.
Upper left arm still connected to upper chest.
6
Retention of FLW and bent right wrist.
Club not as advanced
Shaft and left arm in line.

Reminds me of that time you went to the big house for exposing yourself at that 96 year-old lady's birthday party . . . you were getting those cops to hit you with the taser because it made you "tingle" . . . but it got real ugly when you had to spend the night . . . "Oh darn I seemed to have dropped the soap again."

Hmmm... was that an eye witness account?

Haha, Stylish headwear is the answer!

seriously... i'm not too sure, i initially thought extensor action but i suppose thats too obvious.

Looks like you weakened the left hand a touch-but it is difficult to be sure from the pictures .
Weight more on heels?
Narrower stance.
The hands are lower at the top ,probably tracing a better plane line -more back rather than behind.
Come on Ted tell us:crybaby:

thanks
 

I hadn't played in two weeks, so it took me a couple of days to get back to solid contact. I shot 71 in the Pro-Am on Sunday, but putting was the only reason. I only hit six greens in regulation and had 24 putts. My highlight was dunking an eagle from 117 on a 607 yard par five. I hit the ball poorly on Monday of the Griffin and shot 78 with some doubles. But, I shot 70 on Tuesday with a 33 on the back. I did the same thing on the last day at the Atlanta Open, with a 33 on the back.

In my last five tournament rounds, I've had three rounds under par. 77, 71, 71, 78, & 70. So, I'm very happy considering my work load. I'd have to stop teaching as much in order to play any better.

good eyes
 

I knew you guys were smart, but I didn't think anyone would see it from the previous view. Here's the change and the logic:

7-17: Foot Loading - enabled him to get the FLW at Impact.

In his backstroke, he was getting closer to the ball. He had been told to do thousands of chips/pitches with the FLW, which doesn't hurt anyone. But, he never had the ability to keep it in a longer stroke.

His weight was so much on hos toes that it changed the geometry. Getting closer to the ball discouraged Extensor Action. And, with the loss in structure, his wrist couldn't stay flat.

The cirlce was where his head started.

So, he would get closer to the ball, never really clearing the hip. The right elbow was inevitably on a collision course with the right kidney. Then the arm would take the detour, go around, and pull inward. The left arm became slightly bent, and the left wrist bent.

He felt like he was 10 miles from the ball at Impact, just to get the result that we did.

if that doesn't work...
 

Sometimes the taser doesn't work...

Yeah I was at the throw down for that 96 yearold chick too. I was hittin' on her baby sister Edna. We were dancin' to some Tone Loc and I broke it down with the alligator bob. Her baby-daddy, Gilbert, hit me with a walker. Before I knew it was catchin' a beatin' from all kinds of durable medical equipment. The cops came and locked me and Mike up . . .

NO JUSTICE . . . NO PEACE.

And we continue to watch...no secrets, eyes everywhere.

Muuuhaaahaahaha.

Hey Nukester, you need to borrow my cattle prod and check it out.

I must be out of the loop. What's a Tone Loc, and how does one dance to it?

My Dog!
 

Ted,
Most of the forum members may not know that - that is my dog in your post#18. It took me a year to train him to react like that when I say "12 Piece Bucket!" But he's fully trained. I've still have 10 more dogs to train before I head to North Carolina.:angry1:

It did look like you were playing great- based on the score card etc. Nice job! 24 putts!::shock: :notworthy That's sick! Here I make a nice post on your game and you gotta stab me in the back - knowing that I've got a stab, hurky, yip, convulsive, epileptic seizure putting stroke! OK- I know where you stand- so you're on Bucket's team - fine, fine!!! I'll make a note of that.

P.S. I only used three smilie icons- under the Bagger dictatorship the limit is 8- so much for a free economy! Maybe when he stops looking for his beat up Top Flite in the rough- he'll do something productive around here! I know Lynn will probably post to protect him- how much work he's put in etc.- but something must be done- an uprising is in the air!!!

Ok I give up - What are you guys on???

Be careful Strav-you don't know what you're getting into!:naughty:

It´s kindof virus.......:confused1

think of it, almost every thread is infected.......&B: :martini:

Baggerman,

What can we do? Tell me, perhaps I can help......:laughing9

I honestly don't know AC. :confused1
All I can tell you is the NSA has called me about Bucket and the CIA is looking for MikeO.
Lately we have been infested with spammers from Eastern Europe and Russia. I know those two are behind all of it.
If either of them offer a round of golf...beware of exploding ProV's. The kind with C4 in the core.

foot loading
 

Sorry to re-jack the thread. But, I was asked to give a little more detail.

7-17: "Address Position loading of the Feet is even distribution between both feet but with enough on the heels to allow the toes to be lifted up momentarily without altering the distribution between the toe and heel."

Since he was starting on the balls of his feet and going to the toes quickly in Start Up, his Balance was immediately lost.

I don't know where the rumor started, but it was told to me that Rocking (moving closer to or away from the ball) would be added to the Snares in the 7th. I have no idea from whom the rumor originated. I think it was from someone that attended a GSEB class, so don't take it as gospel. It seems to make sense, but I don't recall it being in Homer's notes.

But, it's obvious that this man's changing proximity to the ball affected his ability to keep Balance, clear the right hip, maintain Extensor Action, & keep the FLW.

Thanks Ted for interesting posts... i have long term habitual fault of drifting my weight towards my toes....bad habit...

I have looked through a few old books and Ben Hogan in "Power Golf" is adamant that :-

"None of your weight should rest on the clubhead point of contact. That will be true if the weight is back through the heel as it should be. You should never feel that the weight is forward on your feet if you have taken up the correct position."

He repeats the same position in "Modern Fundamentals":-

"Your weight should be bit more on the heels than on the balls of your feet, so that, if you wanted to, you would be able to lift your toes inside your shoes"

At some point in golf instruction there then came a change towards the weight being more towards the balls of the feet... any ideas when, why or how this occurred??

In Sam Snead’s "How to play golf" he has a section on foot action with some good images... it seems a bit of an under-discussed component in modern teaching maybe?

Maybe it's because a lot of instruction stresses getting into "an athletic position", and relate it to other sports. Oversimplification in action?

ball moves, you move; stationary ball, stationary head
 

I agree Bigwill. It's a mistake to make direct comparisons.

Being in the so-called "athletic position" usually relates to those sports where the ball is moving. When you are on your toes, you are preparing to run to a moving ball (baseball, tennis, basketball, & football). Knowing that walking and running are uncentered endeavors (controlled falling), golf is the opposite. Golf needs a center and balance. And, golf begins with a stationary ball.

This is kinda interesting for me as I am suffering from some balance issues of late and losing my alignements of late. Will check where my weight is on my feet to see if this improves things as I have the habit of falling to the side (towards the ball) as well when things go bad.
Alex

So at address is the weight evenly distributed on each foot and during the backswing is there weight shift more toward the heel of the back foot? Is there a proper sequencing of weight shift relative to the feet during the transition and into the downswing?

Thanks for your insights.

Afternoons with Mr. Hogan by Vasquez
 

Not hitting, but Hogan seemed very concerned about keeping
perfect balance on the right leg. Any straightening of the right leg or
bowing movement of the left wrist at the top, caused weight to move
to the toes and loss of balance. One of the pictures of the Lifetimer
TGM'er shows the bowing of the left wrist at the top and the head
moving outward. The after picture show the left hand flat and
the head staying back. The important thing to me is that Yoda Luke
observed the balance problem and put in a correction. Yoda Luke
is thinking about the swing on a higher level of understanding, much
like Hogan.

That's because Alex is a Scotch addict:naughty:

BJ,

It is a fact that all true Glaswegians can walk on one leg only throughout a complete weekend.:occasion: :martini: :martini: :occasion:

Their ability to do this diminishes with their return to sobriety on a Monday morning - when the inability to get out of bed and go to work overrides this phenomenon.:sick: :sick: :sick:

PS: For the record, Alex does not drink and has a full range of mobility throughout the entire week. His balance only being impaired by whichever pocket his wallet never comes out of.:grin: :grin:

Coming from a Yorkshireman....the words pot kettle black comes to mind ;-)
Alex

Alex knows I'm only picking on him in hopes of getting a loan ;)

You would have more success training yourself to breath water.:eyes: :laughing9

Now, if you were to ask a Yorkshireman then at least you would get a direct answer............................................ .................."dream on!":naughty: :laughing1

Dkerby, Luke or anybody;

Please explain this connection between the bowed left wrist at top or end and the weight moving to the toes. I have both, sadly, and need a fix. I try to correct the wrist but it keeps coming back. On video the left wrist looks good at top but by end it is bowed, what gives?

Very excited to think it might be corrected with rocking abatement intervention (RAI).

O.B.

Top to end
 

OB Left, could you be straightening your back leg when you
go from the top to the end? Vasquez said in his book,
Try cupping the the wrist, but allow the the back knee
to straighten. You've lost your balance again. You still
can't break 80. Make no mistake, the back-knee position
made Ben Hogan's swing. (Hogan said so, I didn't).

Homer said in 7-16, "If the straightening Knee is allowed to
lock "beyond center" the subsequent unlocking is disruptive.

I assume that you are swinging. But being on Yoda Lukes
tread (Yoda Luke being a hitter), you would not want to
go from the top to the end as a hitter.

About Cupping, Vasquez said the Hogan told him that cupping
gave him balance. On the other hand, from talking with Yoda,
Yoda is not a fan of cupping at the top/end, because it sets
the foward hand in a bent condition, if held to impact it would be
the number one mistake of not having a flat forward wrist at
impact.