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YodasLuke 03-24-2007 07:35 AM

swing left, and look like this
 
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If I get one more guy that's been told to swing left, I'm going to pull the rest of my hair out. I believe he had plenty of left.
This was our first lesson, so there's plenty more to do. But, this was a good start.

psheehan 03-24-2007 10:39 AM

Ted,
That 'swing left' stuff from you know who's instruction is absolutely amazing to me. That guy believes the base line of the plane is a friggin circle????? What is with that???

Good job on straightening out another lost soul.

alex_chung 03-24-2007 03:49 PM

Good job man. Swing left is something that I am working hard to get rid of (Ted will know what I am talking about)
So what is the next step in helping this guy on?
Alex

bantamben1 03-24-2007 07:51 PM

looks like working on that right elbow bend a little. Hard to tell from the angle but looks like he has that right arm bent to 120 degrees wich is causing him to bend heis left arm

Delaware Golf 03-24-2007 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 39774)
If I get one more guy that's been told to swing left, I'm going to pull the rest of my hair out. I believe he had plenty of left.
This was our first lesson, so there's plenty more to do. But, this was a good start.


Ted,

What do you think the point of swing left means? Do you believe it's a startdown to impact thought/concept/methodolgy??? Your thoughts?

Another question...Did this golfer personally study with the golf instructor who teaches this swing left approach or did this individual read a book that told him to swing left?

DG

YodasLuke 03-24-2007 10:11 PM

he had bad concepts, but perfect application
 
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Originally Posted by Delaware Golf (Post 39786)
Ted,

What do you think the point of swing left means? Do you believe it's a startdown to impact thought/concept/methodolgy??? Your thoughts?

Another question...Did this golfer personally study with the golf instructor who teaches this swing left approach or did this individual read a book that told him to swing left?

DG

Mainly, I think that it's a total misunderstanding of the geometry. People see the clubhead blur in a circle, so they attempt to draw circles instead of straight lines. Also, the circle seems to match a rotary motion. I asked him about his concepts. He spoke mostly about body power, turning hard to the left, etc. I think most of his information came from reading magazine articles and hearsay.

I've seen a mat that wanted you to trace a circle with a laser ("F" in geometry). Needless to say, Homer had it right about tracing the straight baseline. 2-J-3 shows us the visual equivalents. Simply placing balls on the ground to cover with the clubhead does not consider the geometric basis of the inclined plane. How would one decide the degree of curvature? There are no degrees of straight lines. Either you're tracing a straight line, or you're not. It's that simple.

You can't drop your hands straight down from the top, then rotate like a compass. The club goes down, out, and forward simultaneously and on-plane. They are not sequenced motions as some teach.

YodasLuke 03-24-2007 10:22 PM

wait until I fix his Impact
 
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Originally Posted by alex_chung (Post 39782)
Good job man. Swing left is something that I am working hard to get rid of (Ted will know what I am talking about)
So what is the next step in helping this guy on?
Alex

After the plane change, he went from a 100 yard 7 iron to a 140 yard 7 iron. After a few expletives, he said he couldn't believe it.

I saved his Impact pictures (wow!!), so I can't wait until he returns. We're going to educate his hands. The next change will truly be remarkable.

tradekid 03-24-2007 10:27 PM

Mark Evershed uses a laser at the end of a club and he demonstrates tracing a straight plane line after impact with a bent right wrist. He explains the hands have to move left to keep the point of the laser on plane. He calls it swinging the hands left. Is this what we're talking about here?

Delaware Golf 03-24-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tradekid (Post 39790)
Mark Evershed uses a laser at the end of a club and he demonstrates tracing a straight plane line after impact with a bent right wrist. He explains the hands have to move left to keep the point of the laser on plane. He calls it swinging the hands left. Is this what we're talking about here?

Based on Ted's comments, it appears the swing left is not coming from Evershed. The swing left concept that Mark teachs is acutally 1-L-15, a post impact condition.

DG

Delaware Golf 03-24-2007 11:23 PM

Section 1-L
 
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Originally Posted by YodasLuke (Post 39788)
Mainly, I think that it's a total misunderstanding of the geometry. People see the clubhead blur in a circle, so they attempt to draw circles instead of straight lines. Also, the circle seems to match a rotary motion. I asked him about his concepts. He spoke mostly about body power, turning hard to the left, etc. I think most of his information came from reading magazine articles and hearsay.

I've seen a mat that wanted you to trace a circle with a laser ("F" in geometry). Needless to say, Homer had it right about tracing the straight baseline. 2-J-3 shows us the visual equivalents. Simply placing balls on the ground to cover with the clubhead does not consider the geometric basis of the inclined plane. How would one decide the degree of curvature? There are no degrees of straight lines. Either you're tracing a straight line, or you're not. It's that simple.

You can't drop your hands straight down from the top, then rotate like a compass. The club goes down, out, and forward simultaneously and on-plane. They are not sequenced motions as some teach.

Ted,

Why doesn't 1-L-13 mention the word "Forward"???

And why does Homer mention the golf swing in this way in 12-5-0...."Use a slow, smooth motion up-and-back, down-and-out and up-and-in the same distance in both directions and continously as possible." No mention of forward there either???

DG


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