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Andy R 07-19-2008 09:21 PM

Paul Azinger & Tom Watson comment on The Right Side
 
For all you hitters out there, a quote from todays coverage.

While viewing slow motion playback of KJ Choi's follow through after impact;

Paul Azinger - "Look how his right arm goes right over the top of his left. All these guys just pound the ball with their right side, their right arm, their right hand. They really get all the way through it. If anyone's telling you to pull with your left, they're telling you wrong."
Tom Watson - "Thats right. Jack Nicklaus said, from the top just hit as hard as you can with your right side. If your left side is moving at all, you can, you'll catch up."
:happy3:

nuke99 07-19-2008 10:00 PM

Bubba said he wants to swing his arms as hard as he can.

Yoda 07-19-2008 10:05 PM

Selective Learning
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy R (Post 54453)

For all you hitters out there, a quote from todays coverage.

While viewing slow motion playback of KJ Choi's follow through after impact;

Paul Azinger - "Look how his right arm goes right over the top of his left. All these guys just pound the ball with their right side, their right arm, their right hand. They really get all the way through it. If anyone's telling you to pull with your left, they're telling you wrong."
Tom Watson - "Thats right. Jack Nicklaus said, from the top just hit as hard as you can with your right side. If your left side is moving at all, you can, you'll catch up."
:happy3:

Thanks for transcribing these quotes, AndyR. I heard this exchange today and both agreed and disagreed with the analysis.

Paul Azinger:

"Look how his right arm goes right over the top of his left."
Finish Swivel. Cool.
"All these guys just pound the ball with their right side, their right arm, their right hand. They really get all the way through it."
Right Hand #3 Pressure Point Lag Pressure. In fact, the TGM motto: "Sustain the Lag." Especially when the comment comes from someone who has spent his entire golfing life with a Turned Left Hand on the Club and going 'knuckles up' through Impact, I totally understand.
"If anyone's telling you to pull with your left, they're telling you wrong."
Tell me you throw with your right side from the top, Paul. Please, just tell me that, and I, along with your long time teacher, John Redman will just go away. :crybaby: [See hg's Post #2, Frame #10 here http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...457#post54457]
Tom Watson:

"Thats right. Jack Nicklaus said, from the top just hit as hard as you can with your right side. If your left side is moving at all, you can, you'll catch up."
Actually, Jack said that "Once you have moved to your left side, you can't release too soon." Even that can be a stretch, e.g., Snap Releases, but still it ain't the same as hitting from the top with the right side. And that is exactly what the average guy does (which is why he is average).
Enjoy the performers from their perch in the booth. Especially their anecdotes and insights on the difficulties the players face. But please . . .

Be very careful applying their 'Feels' and platitudes to your game.

:salut:

purehitter 07-20-2008 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 54455)
Thanks for transcribing these quotes, AndyR. I heard this exchange today and both agreed and disagreed with the analysis.

Paul Azinger:

"Look how his right arm goes right over the top of his left."
Finish Swivel. Cool.
"All these guys just pound the ball with their right side, their right arm, their right hand. They really get all the way through it."
Right Hand #3 Pressure Point Lag Pressure. In fact, the TGM motto: "Sustain the Lag." Especially when the comment comes from someone who has spent his entire golfing life with a Turned Left Hand on the Club and going 'knuckles up' through Impact, I totally understand.
"If anyone's telling you to pull with your left, they're telling you wrong."
Tell me you throw with your right side from the top, Paul. Please, just tell me that, and I, along with your long time teacher, John Redman will just go away. :crybaby: [See hg's Post #2, Frame #10 here http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/forum/s...457#post54457]
Tom Watson:

"Thats right. Jack Nicklaus said, from the top just hit as hard as you can with your right side. If your left side is moving at all, you can, you'll catch up."
Actually, Jack said that "Once you have moved to your left side, you can't release too soon." Even that can be a stretch, e.g., Snap Releases, but still it ain't the same as hitting from the top with the right side. And that is exactly what the average guy does (which is why he is average).
Enjoy the performers from their perch in the booth. Especially their anecdotes and insights on the difficulties the players face. But please . . .

Be very careful applying their 'Feels' and platitudes to your game.

:salut:

I just mute the sound when watching the super slow motion swings they talk about.

Andy R 07-20-2008 06:56 AM

For me, I liked how the quotes express personal preference for, and confirmation of, Homer's teaching from a hitters perspective, rather than any kind of slam on swinging. I love the power of driving my right arm through the ball/plane line.

One of my favorite Yoda quotes.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Everybody thinks they understand the Plane Line. You know...We 'trace' it. We 'point' at it. We swing 'along' it.

Here's my message: Obliterate it!


6bmike 07-22-2008 04:27 PM

Homer only looked at the pictures for truth, he didn't think their explainantions reflected what they were doing. Perhaps more true today. Azinger observes a finish swivel and tells us that it is right hand hitting is just plain sad. Any left side pulling can perform a finish swivel the same way.
Lynn- you NAILED it.

Now you will have because of Azinger and Watson- "unprincipaled" (lacking the imperatives) golfers with severe right hand throw away.

Sligo33 07-22-2008 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 54521)
Now you will have because of Azinger and Watson- "unprincipaled" (lacking the imperatives) golfers with severe right hand throw away.


These guys are why my lesson business keeps growing. Although it amazes and un-nerves me at the same time to listen to these guys explain what they think or feel should be going on in the golf swing.

Both of these men are fine players, but there comments about the swing are vague and incomplete.

Thankfully, Homer Kelley took an objective view to the analysis of the golf swing. Basing his conclusions on Physics and Geometry rather than Feel, subjective opinion or conjecture.

6bmike 07-22-2008 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sligo33 (Post 54524)
These guys are why my lesson business keeps growing. Although it amazes and un-nerves me at the same time to listen to these guys explain what they think or feel should be going on in the golf swing.

Both of these men are fine players, but there comments about the swing are vague and incomplete.

Thankfully, Homer Kelley took an objective view to the analysis of the golf swing. Basing his conclusions on Physics and Geometry rather than Feel, subjective opinion or conjecture.


Yes- not putting Paul or Tom down but all the so-called swing gurus the networks pair with the slo-mo camera will keep you in business for a long time.

Scottgas2 07-22-2008 11:44 PM

So what does KJ do?
 
Is he hitting? The results are usually pretty good.

Yoda 07-22-2008 11:46 PM

Boss Left Wrist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6bmike (Post 54521)

Azinger observes a finish swivel and tells us that it is right hand hitting is just plain sad. Any left side pulling can perform a finish swivel the same way.
Lynn- you NAILED it.

Through Impact, Hitting or Swinging, the Left Wrist (10-18-0) is responsible for the Hinge Action (7-10/18 ); the Finish Swivel (2-G); and maintaining the alignments of the Left Arm Flying Wedge (6-B-3-0-1) and its Rhythm (1-L #8 / 6-B-3-0 / The Glossary).

Only when the Left Wrist is fully in command can the Right Forearm Flying Wedge (Right Forearm and #3 Pressure Point) Deliver with abandon its Lag Pressure Load into Impact (Major Basic Stroke / 7-3).

:)


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