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Trig 12-22-2005 12:23 AM

My first downstroke thought
 
Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.

12 piece bucket 12-22-2005 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trig
Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.

ME LIKEY!!!!!

comdpa 12-22-2005 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trig
Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.

I use an "extension" of your method, per 2-N-0, your move is the start of an underhand pitch, I go all the way with that idea..as in I actually visualize throwing the grip of the club butt end first down the fairway. Works for me. :)

Yoda 12-22-2005 03:57 AM

As Ye Think, So Shall Ye Swing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trig
Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

Trig,

The 'Palms to Plane' is a great idea, especially for Swingers. Just make sure your students have the correct concept for the angled plane of glass. It is a 'through the waist' Plane of Rotation and not the Hogan Five Lessons idea of 'over the shoulders'.

Thom 12-22-2005 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trig
Does anyone think of this during the downstroke?

Homer Kelley gave a tip at one of his masters classes (which I heard on tape) that I really like and I use it all the time.

He was talking about the imaginary plane of glass in which your head sticks out and the base is on the plane line. He said to keep your right palm underneath and flat to that plane of glass on the downstroke.

This tip helps me ensure my first move is down and not out and over the top. If your right palm is underneath and facing that imaginary plane of glass, then it's impossible to come over the top.

As I think about this, it seems this focus on the right hand compliments the left hand karate chop.

As an anti OTT thought it sounds good to me, but isn't focusing on the right bordering the right arm swing?

Clay Huestis 12-22-2005 07:31 AM

Why through the waist?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda
Trig,

The 'Palms to Plane' is a great idea, especially for Swingers. Just make sure your students have the correct concept for the angled plane of glass. It is a 'through the waist' Plane of Rotation and not the Hogan Five Lessons idea of 'over the shoulders'.

I'm afraid you lost me here...why would it be a "through the waist" plane? Assuming a turned-shoulder plane, for instance, wouldn't the imaginary plane of glass more or less rest on the shoulders, a la Hogan's Five Lessons?

birdie_man 12-22-2005 07:54 PM

I thought the same thing.

12 piece bucket 12-22-2005 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clay Huestis
I'm afraid you lost me here...why would it be a "through the waist" plane? Assuming a turned-shoulder plane, for instance, wouldn't the imaginary plane of glass more or less rest on the shoulders, a la Hogan's Five Lessons?

Nope. See 10-6-B #1. The Plane cuts through your belt line and basically to your arm pit.

Clay Huestis 12-23-2005 08:54 AM

Ahh that makes sense
 
I don't have my book here with me, but I can see the picture in my mind...the Plane Board is cut out, with Diane inside it. This makes sense, since the "Hogan" plane would be the Shoulder plane, and the TSP is flatter...I guess I never really looked closely at HOW MUCH flatter. Thanks Bucket, when I get home I will get my book, look Look LOOK and absorb!

6bmike 12-23-2005 09:24 AM

hogan-blake pics
 
Homer giving out a ‘tip’- very cool. LOL

I like to feel the shiny underside of my right arm trailing under the hairy left arm after my pivot starts. This keeps me from a shoulder induced OTT move. That hairy left up and the shiny right side up and below is the classic pre-release Storage position.

See the Hogan-Blake pictures on the first page of The Gallery.


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