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Fred Brattain 01-10-2006 10:10 PM

Coming Out of the Closet
 
LORD HELP ME, I think I am a Switter. (Fortunately I live in CA where this is no doubt legal :D ).. here is what I am finding out using TGM ,and I invite ANY help someone wants to render.

Background - tradition golf swing until knees and back went south on me.

Tried to become a hitter.

What I have found is that IF I try to be a hitter, as in purely hitting, I make really good contact about once in 7-8 shots. When I DO make contact it goes a long way. However almost everything else is thin.

If I switch back to swinging, but using a hitters grip (palm grip ala Moe Norman) I make consistently good contact, but do not have the same distance.

PLEASE do not misunderstand. I am not trying to be a gorilla out there, I don't hit the ball very far anyway, and can use all the distance I can muster.

I am also not sure (having not tried it for an extended period of time) if my back will withstand that rhythmic but Centripetal motion of swinging.

HELP [-o<

Obi WunPutt

Doug 01-10-2006 11:08 PM

Hit
 
Fred

One important thing about hitting to remember is that you are moving the entire lever assembly with a steady thrust via #1 pressure point.

The feel through impact is slow deliberate and heavy ie: dragging baby brother.

billmckinneygolf 01-11-2006 03:07 AM

Switting puts the Grrr in Swinger!
 
Don't be ashamed of being a Switter! Most Tour pros are exactly that. That puts the Grr in Swinger. Yeah, baby!
And it may be other reasons why you aren't getting the results you deserve..pivot speed, flexibility, back-up support, etc.
I am a California pro...GSEM..Swit away, my man! But polish the Star System Triad.

drewitgolf 01-11-2006 03:10 PM

Johnny be good
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by billmckinneygolf
Don't be ashamed of being a Switter! Most Tour pros are exactly that. That puts the Grr in Swinger. Yeah, baby!
And it may be other reasons why you aren't getting the results you deserve..pivot speed, flexibility, back-up support, etc.
I am a California pro...GSEM..Swit away, my man! But polish the Star System Triad.

In the immortal words of tennis great John McEnroe, "You can't be serious!"

Bagger Lance 01-11-2006 03:16 PM

Fred,

One of the hardest things to master in hitting is keeping your right wrist bent through impact. If you are hitting it thin, that may be the culprit.

Keep that right wrist bent and don't run out of right arm.
Putting you into the hitters emergency room for more attention from Luke the Nuke!

Bagger

psheehan 01-11-2006 06:36 PM

A Telethon for switters
 
Fred,
I am probably a poster child for switting; I'm not proud of it.... AND I've been to Ted twice in the last year.... and believe me, Ted ain't teaching the switting.. I've also experienced the thin shots and some other problems that occur when not properly and completely executing a 'hit.' In general there are 3 things that give me problems in my journey from swinging to hitting..... a)stopping at TOP and not going to end....this is very important ...and I'm ususally surprised by how short a hitters stroke actually feels to someone who is/was a swinger b) a lack of extensor action and c)loosing the bend in the right wrist. Ted will probably chime in with more....

Fred Brattain 01-11-2006 06:51 PM

More about the swing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by psheehan
Fred,
I am probably a poster child for switting; I'm not proud of it.... AND I've been to Ted twice in the last year.... and believe me, Ted ain't teaching the switting.. I've also experienced the thin shots and some other problems that occur when not properly and completely executing a 'hit.' In general there are 3 things that give me problems in my journey from swinging to hitting..... a)stopping at TOP and not going to end....this is very important ...and I'm ususally surprised by how short a hitters stroke actually feels to someone who is/was a swinger b) a lack of extensor action and c)loosing the bend in the right wrist. Ted will probably chime in with more....

Thanks for the responses. I went to the range after school today and discovered something VERY interesting. But first, yes, I know how short the backswing feels if you are used to swinging. It feels like about 1/4 stroke.

What I discovered, and I don't know if this is really "correct" but it works for me right now. Remember, I am STRUGGLING with making heads or tails of the book. And once more I am going to digress. I can do the chip, punch pitch drill with a flat left wrist and bent right wrist until the cows come home. NO sweat. However, trying to hang onto the club that way for very long after an very abbreviated follow through HURTS a LOT.

Anyway, what I discovered is that the most solid contact and best direction and distance I have achieved in a while comes when I consciously roll the clubface open on the backswing and closed on the downswing. I doubt this is a "HITTER" move :confused: so I dont' know what's going on. What I do know is that I am hitting the ball a LOT better with this move than anything else I have tried.

If anyone wishes to help me with this, PLEASE do not just refer me to 2-9-B or whatever. EXPLAIN what you think I should be doing. I am not particularly stupid, but the Yellow Book has me completely baffled.

Thanks,

Obi WunPutt

comdpa 01-11-2006 10:19 PM

Fanning the Clubface or the Forearm
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fred Brattain
Thanks for the responses. I went to the range after school today and discovered something VERY interesting. But first, yes, I know how short the backswing feels if you are used to swinging. It feels like about 1/4 stroke.

What I discovered, and I don't know if this is really "correct" but it works for me right now. Remember, I am STRUGGLING with making heads or tails of the book. And once more I am going to digress. I can do the chip, punch pitch drill with a flat left wrist and bent right wrist until the cows come home. NO sweat. However, trying to hang onto the club that way for very long after an very abbreviated follow through HURTS a LOT.

Anyway, what I discovered is that the most solid contact and best direction and distance I have achieved in a while comes when I consciously roll the clubface open on the backswing and closed on the downswing. I doubt this is a "HITTER" move :confused: so I dont' know what's going on. What I do know is that I am hitting the ball a LOT better with this move than anything else I have tried.

If anyone wishes to help me with this, PLEASE do not just refer me to 2-9-B or whatever. EXPLAIN what you think I should be doing. I am not particularly stupid, but the Yellow Book has me completely baffled.

Thanks,

Obi WunPutt

I would love to check and see if you are fanning the right forearm or the clubface.

Fred Brattain 01-11-2006 10:36 PM

difference??
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comdpa
I would love to check and see if you are fanning the right forearm or the clubface.

If I understand the question correctly, I am rolling my right forearm which has the effect of opening the club face, my wrists are maintaining the same alignment with the clubface during the backswing... don't know if this clarifies or not.

Hope this helps.

Obi WunPutt


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