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Originally Posted by sonny

Yoda. 12-2-0 does not work. With all due respect, I think its nonsense. Componets #6 plane angle and #7 plane angle variation are being used as good old natural golf. THe hands setting high on a turned shoulder plane angle with zero variation back and through. MOE NORMAN best Sunday punch with his active #One accumulator could not hit it pass MAC's 4 iron. What good is accuracy with out power? There are wonder variations in TGM that will produce fantastic shot making but 12-2-0 is fatally flawed. Regards SONNY

Power is a Zone 2 consideration. Accuracy, including the Plane and its Angle that you have referenced, is Zone 3. Clearly, Mac is a magnificent athlete, but I find no power constraint in Homer's Basic Stroke Patterns.

Speaking of respective talents, I might add that in Homer's last years at Boeing, there was one signature that could release a B-47. It was not Mac's.

Mac O'Grady GM#202

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Originally Posted by sonny

Ben thinks snap loading is more sopisticated, but will work with a players tendencies as to sweep and random loading. SONNY

So Mac doesn't like Snap Loading and presumably, the Snap Release. Big deal. That doesn't make them 'bad.' It only highlights their incompatibility with (1) Hitting -- Homer recommended no Snap Loading and Release in Components #22 and #24 in 12-1-0 -- and (2) Mac's Fast Arm Swing. [Due to their quick 'Travel Time,' Snap Releases demand lower Hand Speed.] Certainly, Mac's 'opinion' does not make them any less useful for the 'average' golfer who Swings (12-2-0) and needs more yardage.

And Hitter or Swinger, if you didn't run twelve miles before your last round -- or choose to play that round from your opposite side under a different name after alienating ten of your nine closest friends -- you're probably 'average.' Welcome to the human race.

Mac O'Grady GM#218

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Originally Posted by sonny

Yoda , What MORAD model type are you referring to CP ,CF, or online? Your comment that MAc has just dicovered hitting is not accurate and inappropiate. I was wondering what you think releases the #2 accumulator in the golf SWING? SONNY

What I've learned of MORAD I know only 'in shadow' and that from others. I do know that 10 degrees with this and 8 degrees with that is doomed to practical failure. Plus, it is unncecessary. There is more precision in TGM than even the gifted athlete can produce infallibly. The fact is that many of the 'degrees' oriented alignments are incapsulated in the 'simple' Mechanics of Plane Line Tracing, Delivery Path, Hinge Action and Rhythm. Finally, I am absolutely not impressed with Mac's extreme Set Up and compensating Start Up and Backstroke. Nice move from the Top though! :oops:

My comment regarding the Hitting 'discovery' was a reference to the use of the Driving Right Arm from the Top -- a 'Mac move' so I've been told -- and its consistency with Homer's recommended Hitting procedure, i.e., using the Right Shoulder as a 'Launching Pad' for the Driving Right Arm. If my perception is different from what Mac teaches -- or even 'inappropriate -- then it is different. Please tell me how. It is the only way I'll find out, because unlike the published work of Homer Kelley and the volumunious comment on that work on this site and others, the House of Mac guards the hen house pretty closely.

Regarding what releases the #2 Accumulator, the answers are: (1) Centrifugal Force (Swingers) or (2) an active Right Elbow (Hitters).

Mac O'Grady BM#120

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Originally Posted by lt

Mac claims that after Jodie won TPC and announced to the world that Mac was
his teacher Mac 'X'ed him.. Mac says that he wanted it a "secret"
that him and Jodie were working together. When Jodie said that he was working
with Mac, Mac said bye bye. Then he claimed that this was the reason Jodie
quit playing the tour. This information is only as accurate as Mac's word.

lt

lt was as close as one could get to the 'Mac Inside.' And when --
inevitably -- the door was shut, he joined the rest of us on the 'Mac
Outside.'

Skinning the Cat CE#47

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Originally Posted by sonny

Yoda , Yeah your hands are higher at impact .Ogrady says its because of centrif. force . Golf machine uses component #15 hip action to describe the physics of throw out. While component number #14 hip turn keeps the club always vertical to path. Mac says when you go P1 to P2 the club releases up , but if you look at the position of the rt arm just pass the rt toe , it would be closer the body then the same position coming down after a double shift . Otherwise you hit pushes , the rt arm angle should point to the ball while in pitch basic ( higher then address) then it will be UNHAMPER and the throw out of accumulator #3 (6-B-3-0) will whip the club face into impact alignment. Just a side note , I use 2-J-1 to vary height on my shots. Address the ball on the heel to hit low( i.e you need more foward lean at impact to get the sweet spot. Address the ball on the toe to hit the ball higher( i.e you apply a little more extensor action to get to the center of the club) . I glad to see the forum up and running again. SONNY

Hi Sonny,

First time we've 'talked.' Lot's of interesting stuff in your post. It's always neat to see how others apply the principles and procedures of The Golfing Machine to make it happen' in their own game.

I met with Mac (O'Grady) some twenty years ago at a tour stop. Homer had just died, and we spent an afternoon together hitting balls and talking Golf Machine. Since then, though, we've lost contact, and while I've heard of his system, I'm not familiar with it. I understand it is based on The Golfing Machine but adds a good deal more 'bells and whistles.'

I think I know what you're driving at with the "P1 to P2 Release Up" but could you supply a bit more detail? Thanks!