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12 piece bucket 04-30-2006 10:41 PM

7-23 Thrust vs. Motion anybody wanna tackle this one?
 
7-23 . . . Normally, Delivery "THRUST" is "Cross Line" - Delivery "MOTION" is "On Line".

What does this mean to you?

lagster 04-30-2006 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
7-23 . . . Normally, Delivery "THRUST" is "Cross Line" - Dleivery "MOTION" is "On Line".

What does this mean to you?

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I would think it has to do with HITTING or SWINGING. THRUST= HITTING= CROSS LINE(ANGLE OF APPROACH)
MOTION= SWINGING= ON LINE(ARC OF APPROACH)

Maybe Mr. Yoda will chime in.

Daryl 05-01-2006 07:03 AM

Hmm.

Delivery motion is parallel to the base line of the inclined plane. Thrust is directed to low point which is across the base line of the inclined plane. Thrust toward the inside aft quadrant of the ball.

Yoda 05-01-2006 09:14 AM

Drive-Out Action Versus Throw-Out Action
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lagster

I would think it has to do with HITTING or SWINGING. THRUST= HITTING= CROSS LINE(ANGLE OF APPROACH)
MOTION= SWINGING= ON LINE(ARC OF APPROACH)

Maybe Mr. Yoda will chime in.

Right you are, Lagster.

Daryl 05-01-2006 10:15 AM

Yoda,

You must be shaking your head at me. Such a simple concept.

Yoda 05-01-2006 11:43 AM

Good Stuff, Daryl!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Daryl

Yoda,

You must be shaking your head at me. Such a simple concept.

To the contrary, Daryl. I thought you did a good job with your post. The only thing that came to mind was that you could have added my bolded comment to your quote below:

"Thrust is directed to low point which is across the base line of the inclined plane"... and continues Down Plane during the Follow-Through until the Right Arm is straight.

12 piece bucket 05-01-2006 06:57 PM

Thrust in all Strokes?
 
Is Thrust present irrespective of the procedure one selects?

neil 05-01-2006 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
Is Thrust present irrespective of the procedure one selects?

Dare I say absolutly?If you consider centrifugal force to be thrust,just generated a different way -by on- line motion,still down and out but on the arc of approach(?)

Yoda 05-01-2006 08:55 PM

Two Types Of Thrust
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket

Is Thrust present irrespective of the procedure one selects?

Yes.

The Hitter generates Cross-Line Thrust Muscularly (Linear Right Triceps Drive-Out of the entire Primary Lever Assembly, i.e., the Left Arm and Club).

The Swinger generates On-Line Thrust Centrifugally (Rotational Body Momentum Transfer into the 'essentially inert' Left Arm and the Secondary Lever Assembly, i.e., the Club).

tongzilla 05-02-2006 04:49 AM

Delivert Thrust (Cross Line) vs Deliver Motion (On Line)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket
7-23 . . . Normally, Delivery "THRUST" is "Cross Line" - Delivery "MOTION" is "On Line".

What does this mean to you?

This may sound so idiotic now that Yoda has already confirmed the correct answer. But this is what I think.

Lets start with the first word, "Normally". This says to me that we are looking at the case where both Swingers and Hitters are using the Geometric Straight Plane Line as their Delivery Line (so Hittes are not using their Angle of Approach Delivery Line).

“Cross Line” means something that moves that is not parallel to your Plane Line (normally the Target Line also). “On Line” means something that moves that is parallel to your Plane Line. So what is that ‘something’?

"Delivery Thrust is Cross Line". Well this has to be since Thrust is parallel to the Right Forearm's Angle of Approach, which is on the Inclined Plane. So it's Cross Line in the senese that the Thrust is pointing well to the right of your Target. This is true regardless of the origin of your Thrust – muscularly (Hitting) or centrifugally (Swinging) – because Inclined Plane is Inclined.

"Delivery Motion is On Line". The Motion Homer is referring to is the movement of the Clubshaft and Clubhead. Since we are using the Basic Plane Line, the Clubshaft is Tracing this line also, and the motion of the Clubhead agrees with this On Line procedure. Note that this would not be true if we considered the case where the Hitter is using their Angle of Approach Delivery Line procedure, because their Clubhead now covers the Angle of Approach derived from the original Plane Line, and this produces a Cross Line Motion of the Clubhead. However, as I've explained above, the word "Normally" at the start of the sentence rules this out.


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