Right forearm and elbow and elbow plane..
 

There is a very subtle yet important difference between Right arm swing and extensor Action through #3... I believe there is... but what you think about this;

Is right arm swing harmful to a golf stroke ( incompatibility) trying to load the #3 PP ....using the right forearm extending...
I think it is quite harmful.. especially that alone will affect rhythm, ie easy to hit Fat shots and actually quite bad for the elbow... Am I wrong to assume that?The stroke becomes Switting.... anyway... anybody can explain why is Switting bad ?... I just want to see its the same as what I assume...


With a Swing and extensor just extending 3.. the arm takes a more passive role...The pivot will load and deliver the power package/pressure point..( doesn't seem right.. but ... is it?)


Also... Is it alright to delay the left wrist flattening in a swing or even hitting as in go back slightly on Hand plane or move the hand straight back on elbow plane.. I feel its easier to load the PP because of more Coil Thus easier to move into the elbow plane; Ie easier to swing..

Thank you

Mmmmm' I don't see how you apply/feel extensor action through pp#3 although i've never really thought about it .
To me pp#3 only senses loading and lag pp#1 senses extensor action

PP1 .. yes its correct if its for hitting.. as the forearm supports the arm primary assembly thus extensor action is applied through PP1

PP3 for swinging.. because the forearm and extensor action support the secondary assembly...

Interesting, pp#1 "causes" extensor action while pp#2 "senses" extensor action. IMHO!

In my experience - I have found pp3 better for sweep loading and release and pp1 for snap.....

right forearm and elbow
 

I feel that extensor action is applied by the right forearm and right elbow with the Right Forearm Take-Away since pressure points 1, 2 and 3 are on the aft side of the shaft and EA is inline with the shaft. Of the three, a REVERSE #3 PP snaps the left arm leash with the RFT. Extensor Action does not move the left arm. The pull is straight out along the shaft -- not radial. It is structure glue for the Flying Wedges.

Thanks for reply..

Why we shouldn't Swit then?...Why is it in compatible? How would you explain it in words.
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Secondly.. full Swinging procedure- elbow plane... TGM way is

Start up Swivel to get the Sweet spot plane on plane.

My question is ... Since, Elbow plane require alot of Fanning and Back action. of the arms seldom get behind us often enough..Why couldn't we just bring the elbow back and Swivel mid to end of the swing.. That way we load the accumulator 4 (123) ... instead of the ( 123) 4 sequence..

Its much easier to bring the arm back.. and allow for better Pivot Lag.

So... instead of RFT .. its elbow and arms takeaway..

There is RFT, RST.. and why shouldn't be RET

Of course its not very TGM.. but .... i noticed.. Sam snead... Hogan does it.. soo... can we?

I am sorry if i am talking about other models.. but ... just thinking out of the box.. !

RFT- RST- RET, they all seem to be the same to me.
The club that is push away by a turning shoulders and controlled by this top half of a pivot is a shoulder take-away. Use by many.

Any take-away that is taken away with the right arm or the right forearm flying wedge is a RFT. Lawn mower cord pulling action (RFT) vs. left hand shove to a handshake kind of a thing.

Why the RFT for me? Total control of my swing plane and pivot.

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RFT is in fact RST and RET... I have to agree to disagree..

My point of view is.. something have to be the leader, the King.. Everything have sequence as one is linked to another. I think .. the fact is everything participate ...Thus the comment... RFT is in fact RST.

But I do very much agree RFT and RET can be the same.. because elbow is just connected to the forearm.

However... we have two elbows.. i am talking about bringing BOTH not just one elbow back ..letting both elbow lead the back swing to load the PP 4 or accumulator 4 first.

The reason i said this is.. Look at Hogan.. snead..even Macogrady their takeaway position at waist level.

No.1 the left wrist haven't really swivelled.. and even the left wrist have not really flatten
no.2 Both swinger .. the right elbow is pretty high.. they did not set up for Pitch elbow.Evidently the right elbow is not lower than the right...
No.3 left elbow moves into the body

So.. I figure the only way is to both elbow back... Elbow Leads.. but doesn't mean there is no forearm. wrist, shoulder..

Hogan, Snead and Mac all used a turning shoulder take-away.

If you let the turn or pivot move the club and heads- you shoulder take away. If you let the right hand/arm move the club up, it is a right arm take-away. That simple. Some RFT fan and lift, some pull and lift from the right elbow. Depends where you want your elbow to be.

Pivot control or Hands control. On the take-away, both work for me. Just get back to Hands control on the Down Stroke which is a product of the Hip Action's collaboration with the power package and hands.