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bts 07-07-2008 08:48 AM

impact physics
 
With the same trajectory and carry, is the impact between a fade hit by a right-hander and a draw by a left-hander the same?:eyes:

drewitgolf 07-07-2008 09:24 AM

Fades and Draws require different Lines of Compression; see 1-L #20.

Burner 07-07-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bts (Post 54132)
With the same trajectory and carry, is the impact between a fade hit by a right-hander and a draw by a left-hander the same?:eyes:

The Geometry of impact between fades and draws is different no matter which side of the ball you stand on when you swing.

Likewise, the Physics of the two patterns produce different results. Draws tend to be slightly lower trajectory and run out further on landing than fades.

12 piece bucket 07-08-2008 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Burner (Post 54146)
The Geometry of impact between fades and draws is different no matter which side of the ball you stand on when you swing.

Likewise, the Physics of the two patterns produce different results. Draws tend to be slightly lower trajectory and run out further on landing than fades.

Maybe . . . . I'm not sure you can generalize that. You can hit a draw with a really open face and hit it to the moon.

EdZ 07-08-2008 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bts (Post 54132)
With the same trajectory and carry, is the impact between a fade hit by a right-hander and a draw by a left-hander the same?:eyes:

Due to the differing lines of compression, the efficiency of impact is different. To carry the same distance/trajectory a right hander would have to put more force into the fade than the draw to make up for the different impact physics.

Burner 07-08-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket (Post 54158)
Maybe . . . . I'm not sure you can generalize that. You can hit a draw with a really open face and hit it to the moon.

!2 piece,

We both know that there is an infinite variety of ways in which to defy the logical in golf - I am still inventing a lot of them.:confused1 :laughing9
So, you say "maybe...." and I qualified my remarks with "tend to be". I think we might have consensus.:)

By the way; where you been? I've missed you.

bts 07-09-2008 04:42 AM

right-hander's fade v.s. left-hander's draw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EdZ (Post 54162)
Due to the differing lines of compression, the efficiency of impact is different. To carry the same distance/trajectory a right hander would have to put more force into the fade than the draw to make up for the different impact physics.

Thanks for the explanation.
I should have put my original question this way: "between a right-hander's fade (left-to-right) and a left-hander's draw (also left-to-right) ". But the answer should remain the same. Thanks again.

Mike O 07-09-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bts (Post 54132)
With the same trajectory and carry, is the impact between a fade hit by a right-hander and a draw by a left-hander the same?:eyes:

YES.

1) I thought you were very clear on your starting post that you were comparing a right handed fade to a left handed draw - both producing the exact same shot i.e. trajectory and distance etc.
2) You've answered the question yourself- given the exact same ball flight- then impact conditions were exactly the same - in relation to the ball. If you look at some other context such as the impact point in relation to the player, or the leading edge in relation to the clubhead path, or what the player would need to do to create that shot- well then those issues are not the same.


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