Yoda versus Hogan
 

Yoda - there are the photos of you comparing your swing to Hogan's swing.

Were you hitting (drive loading) in that swing or were you swinging (drag loading)? If you took videos of your hitting action and swinging action and made capture images at those same time points in your downswing, would they appear visually different? Finally, what's the magnitude of the difference in the degree of right triceps muscle activity when you are hitting versus swinging?

I am trying to gain a perspective of what's the degree of difference in right triceps muscle contractility between hitting and swinging.

Jeff.

Swinger With An Attitude
 

These photos were taken at a five-day Academy done for British and German professionals in Hude, Germany. In that Academy, I demonstrated a fair number of both Hitting and Swinging Strokes.

Several months later, a handful of photos were sent to me, and I noticed an extraordinary similarity between them and those in a Hogan sequence just posted on the site. So, we put them up.

Was I Hitting or Swinging in these specific photos? Looks like Drag Loading to me . . . and definintely a Snap Release (not Random Sweep).

Who knows?

My guess is Swinging, but I gotta tell ya, I was using an awful lot of 'Right Arm Drive' in those days!

And still am today!

:salut:

Thrust Hunt
 

Due to my psychological preference -- not to mention my Extensor Action, advancing age and increasing inflexibility -- my Backstroke (Hitting or Swinging) already stops at Top (Right Shoulder High / 10-21-0).

Since (for both Hitting and Swinging) I typically use a Swinger's Drag Loading Start Down -- Pivot and the core muscles Loading the Lag -- any 'capture images' differential would be limited to between Downstroke and Release. And that probably wouldn't be a whole lot.

A suggestion: Go to The Gallery and click on the night time video filmed a couple of years ago. As I recall, I did both a Swing and a Hit there, deliberately one after the other. Take a look and see if I did anything different as measurable by your software. Again, probably not a whole lot. But . . .

I promise you I did something different as measured by my Hands.

:salut:

Blast From the Past
 

Please, Jeff.

I luv ya, man, but at the risk of being labeled condescending . . .

I offer the words of the late, great Tommy Armour in his 1951 classic How To Play Your Best Golf All the Time:

"That's for the hundred-shooter to teach the pro."

:salut:

P.S. For what it's worth, I definitely feel more Right Triceps when using Right Arm Throw (10-20-B) than when using Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E). In fact, after my Pivot-led Start Down (8-7) and Downstroke (8-8 ), its Drive against Pressure Points #1 and #3 in Release (8-9) is my dominant Feel. Through Impact, my Right Arm Drive Feel ("unrelenting Thrust") is paramount, and Left Wrist Uncock Feel and Left Wrist Roll Feel are virtually non-existent. Coordinating the exact moment of Impact, I think 1 -2- 3.

:smile:

Yoda when swinging:
Do you feel like your pulling your left arm shoulder through contact or do you feel like you are pulling your right side through the contact area?
Thanks

Yoda - I luv you too! I am particularly entranced by the depth of your TGM knowledge and I will continue to ask probing questions in the hope that I will learn more-and-more from you about TGM. I have lots to learn!

You wrote-: "For what it's worth, I definitely feel more Right Triceps when using Right Arm Throw (10-20-B) than when using Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E). In fact, after my Pivot-led Start Down (8-7) and Downstroke (8-8 ), its Drive against Pressure Points #1 and #3 in Release (8-9) is my dominant Feel. Through Impact, my Right Arm Drive Feel ("unrelenting Thrust") is paramount, and Left Wrist Uncock Feel and Left Wrist Roll Feel are virtually non-existent. Coordinating the exact moment of Impact, I think 1 -2- 3.

I can readily understand the great "feeling" you must have when drive loading the club into impact as a hitter. However, as a swinger, I am trying to better understand how much drive your clubshaft has into impact when you use a swinging action. Theoretically, according to HK, one shouldn't mix hitting and swinging actions. That means that the CF-release of PA#2 should drive the club into impact without any added right arm power. That's what I want to learn from you - do you use any right arm power (in a drive loading manner) in your swinging action to supplement the CF-induced release of PA#2?

Jeff.

Amen to that.

random rant.
 

Don't we love the good old ("forbidden", "inaccurate", "so hard to master") Four Barrel Swing. Or is it a Four Barrel Hit? Or is it Pure Hitting with a Swinger's Startdown? But how can it be Pure Hitting when one is using a Swinger's loading procedure? Let's just play golf :). I feel my pivot wheeling. I feel my right arm driving and extending through impact. Is it passive or active? I don't know, don't want to know, and don't care. I just know it happens when I'm hitting it well. :)

Shakin' the old sugar off the d-plane with the wedding ring up and the drunk on the back and snappin the chain. 360 degrees back to the fact that Homer already knew that the clubface was boss. Meet the old boss same as the new boss. Welcome back to the place we already done been to.

You saying that TongZ's new wagon has gotten a reinvented wheel or 4 on it?:laughing9