LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - Daryl . . .Please Report to the Parking Lot!!!! Thread: Daryl . . .Please Report to the Parking Lot!!!! View Single Post #4 01-27-2008, 07:11 AM Daryl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 3,521 My Dear Watson, D . . . Are you watching the videos??? Boo is no way no how Horizontal Hinging??? It's closer to VERTICAL hinging than horizontal. That clubface is not pointing along the plane line . . . it's close to pointing at the sky. He does SWIVEL unlike Zach. Watch the close up of the club. The toe is very quiet. Boo is Horizontal Hinging (watch the Clubface rotation through the Ball). You are seeing a clubface facing the sky at the Top of his Swing and have determined the cause to be Hinging. An easier explanation is at hand. Perhaps it is simply 10-2-D using 10-18-A. He is not Swiveling. This will be difficult to understand. I’ll try to be clear. Boo rotates his Left Hand into Impact but does not trace the Plane Line. He does not Uncock and Roll on the same Planeline. He Uncocks on a Parallel line that is 6 inches inside the Planeline and Rolls TO the Planeline. His Pivot is Rolling the Clubface closed to the Planeline in the traditional sense and his Left Hand is Rolling the Clubface in the traditional sense. I don’t want to get into argument with the Master, however Hand Rolling and Swiveling are very different mechanical motions if you look at it from the Plane Lines Point of View. Perhaps this is one of the reasons he appears to have such a Straight Line Delivery. He does have a Straight Line Delivery but not to the baseline of the inclinde Plane. He is Slapping at the ball with his Left Hand. Both use compensations which are varying mixtures of component variations and both break the LAWS to some degree and both have some inefficiency. Both are exceptional athletes. Both have dug their swings out of the ground through countless hours of exaustive labor. Both have found their way. Hats off. And the grip awful? So what. Homer said you could do anything you want. You ask Boo to change his grip and he goes back to the state fair to get knocked out by another orangutan. Forget about accumlators and analysis and all that junk for a second . . . So What? He Grips the Club that way for a reason. A mistake to correct a mistake. Step out of your yellow box. We CAN do the analysis on these swings. Is that the “Proverbial We”? There are reasons why these swings work. Take Sergio, Zach and Boo as examples. Each one has a turned left hand. Two have major amounts of shaft lean. Two have lots of axis tilt and are more slidy than rotational. One has a major shift and turns HARD. One stays on the turned shoulder plane. The other two use the elbow plane. All these components blend. One thing they have in common is the DON'T horizontal hinge. My Exact words were: "Videos and Pictures are better applied to discussions on component variations. Conclusions, however, are based on what Components our eyes can capture and the causative relationships our brains deduct from these." WATCH HOW THE CLUB MOVES IN SPACE COMPARITIVELY . . . The difference is HUGE!!!! One is night the other is day . . . one is black the other is white. You are seeing extreme ends of the spectrum here. Steep vs. Flat. High vs. Low. Circle vs. Line. If a car is travelling down a steep hill at 100 MPH, do you assume the Driver is pushing on the Gas Pedal? Do you assume he wants to? Could his Brakes have failed? What information is at hand to surmise conclusions? I mean I know I'm marginally retarded and all that . . . these golf swings are on the extreme edges and there's a lot to be learned here. You have to step out of the chapter and verse. It's in the book but it requires a bit of reading between the lines. The way these clubs move are as different as night and day. One clubhead skims the ground the other clubhead falls out of the sky. Yes. But observation is not analysis. Analysis’ are not conclusions. Conclusions are not Recommendations. You can make it happen with your clubhead close to the ground as it approaches the ball . . . but my choice is to have it falling out of the sky down on top of the ball. I want my whole primary lever assembly and my whole body brought to bear right down on top of the ball. I want me, my bigfatazz and the club leaning down on the ball. DRIVING IT DOWN IN TO THE GROUND. I understand how you feel about it. But Feel and Mechanics are only brothers. Exaggerating one Component will not correct or obviate the others. Bucket don't do sweep. But that's just me. Daryl don’t do sweep too. When you and I watch a video or view a picture we see the same things. You see a Clubface facing the sky and so do I. You see a Right Wrist Flattening after Impact as I do. We don’t have a problem with observation. We are both armchair analyzing. You and I are not studying each of their components and uncovering what component variations are chosen. Then we are not substituting variations or using other means to uncover their effect. We aren’t deducing conclusions and we aren’t presenting recommendations. We are viewing their swings and chastising or praising them. It’s fun sometimes, I admit, however it doesn’t add to our knowledge. We have a lanquage ala Homer Kelley and we are able to describe geometry and other things to eachother. But vocabulary alone isn't knowledge. Analysis is very hard work. Thats why we have so many commentators. The word "Commentator" comes from the Yankee word - Common - and the Southern word - Tater. Get it? They are "Potato Heads". lol If I got a Dime everytime a Pro came up short on his approach and the Commentator said "that wasn't a mishit, that was a gust of wind" I'd be rich. They get paid to explain it that way. In the world of TV and Golf Rags, It's a carnival. And we are aware of that. I'd much rather watch a tournament in person. __________________ Daryl Last edited by Daryl : 01-27-2008 at 09:21 AM. Daryl View Public Profile Send a private message to Daryl Find all posts by Daryl