LynnBlakeGolf Forums - View Single Post - How Do I Start the Club Back? Thread: How Do I Start the Club Back? View Single Post #38 02-02-2009, 08:18 AM david sandridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 163 Ah ha moment Bam Bam isn't the only one that had a ah ha at Cuscowilla. McHatton says there is no "up" in the golf swing ! Other past teachers all the way back to Ballard had implied the same. I though the pivot put the hands where they needed to go at the top. Since I received "permission to bend the left arm"(left handed golfer) at Cuscowilla and "drink a beer" it has made more sense. I always wondered how the hands got up with a flat shoulder turn. Bend over more and the hands would go more up than around etc. At my age it is critical that my failing brain is not exposed to wrong information. I want just the facts, cut to the chase. I am glad yoda posed his questions and redirected things. Now it is time to hear his answers to his own questions and a summary of the good posts of others. There have been many. Ben Doyle talked about "golf thoughts", tennis thoughts, bike riding thoughts etc". I am convinced that the golf thoughts of, and those endorsed by competent TGMers would be a usable manual for all. Golf thoughts of non TGMers are best left to them. I come to this site to etch in my brain facts I know are reliable and to erase those that are not. Oh, is it true that the Brits are eliminating the apostrophe ?? david sandridge View Public Profile Send a private message to david sandridge Find all posts by david sandridge