[joeunc]

right I have seen the vid, it appears #1 is behind the shaft at impact because it looks left the FLW is angled as you can see the back of his glove and not just a vertical left wrist.

Yoda has said that with a FLW that the left thumb is behind the shaft, just want to make sure I am getting it right.

Tonight, I was playing with the grip some, sliding that left thumb a little over to the right some more, This did allow me to really feel that thumb in the lifeline of the right hand a whole lot more than ever.
At the webbing my thumb and first finger were still together, but the thumb was apart a little more down below.
I have always had that left thumb on top of or just a hair away from the center of the shaft.

I just want to make sure I am not missing out that PP#1 sensation

thanks for any help
Joe