#1 09-16-2005, 11:11 AM bray LBG Pro Contributor Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 235 "The "slightly open for short shots" is from the earliest editions" That quote actually came from my sixth edition, but thank you for your answer. Square to Closed and off to the range I go. Sorting Through the Golf Nut's Catalog! B-Ray bray View Public Profile Send a private message to bray Find all posts by bray