The Secret of Golf

[MizunoJoe]

The secret is out and jig is up. No need for me to write: I'm goin' fishin'!

The jig isn't up til someone explains in detail just how that "secret" is to be physically realized.

[6bmike]

The jig isn't up til someone explains in detail just how that "secret" is to be physically realized.

Explain please. What secret are you talking about and what physical problem do you have in its accomplishmnet?

[MizunoJoe]

Explain please. What secret are you talking about and what physical problem do you have in its accomplishmnet?

What secret??? Have you read the quote to which I responded?

Lag is described but the only mention of HOW it is obtained is a single sentence about dragging a wet mop through impact. The problem is that a wet mop can be drug through impact incorrectly and in such a way that when switching from a wet mop to a golf club, lag won't happen. Someone who doesn't have lag and having read the above posts, still won't.

So the "jig" isn't up.

[Martee]

For me and most of my golfing life, I rarely sensed clubhead lag. Then I did. Yoda had me working on my rhythm, take the club to top, pause and slide the hips then complete the stroke. It was during this drill that 'wow' that was different, I could feel it. I must admit we had made one additional change and that was in my start up twisting the last 3 fingers of the left hand under.

Since then Feeling the lag has come and gone and now its back. When Vickie gave me some exercises to do, she made a point that they needed to be done slow and smooth motions.

Light bulb time. Yup I was taking the club back to fast which required me to tighten my grip to the point that I didn't feel the pressure point. I slowed the back stroke down and realized I didn't have apply a death grip to control the club at the top and there it was.

Recently I have tried experimenting with taking the right thumb and index finger off the shaft and swinging. Do you think you can still monitor/feel lag?

I still rely on one Yoda's tips regarding the grip, have the right thumb over the top, not on top, but over, this seems, at least for me to allow to feel PP#1, PP#3 easily.

If you need to get the feel of this, I would suggest try using a putter and just one hand. PP#1 is where the drive applied and PP#3 should feel the weight.

How many people monitor lag when putting?

[drewitgolf]

When I started monitoring lag when putting, my inconsistency with the flat-stick vanished.

[6bmike]

What secret??? Have you read the quote to which I responded?

Chill out Joe. There is a two question mark limit.

I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing- you left it open as to what you thought the secret was. I live with women, my mind reading skills deteriorated years ago.

Lag is described but the only mention of HOW it is obtained is a single sentence about dragging a wet mop through impact. The problem is that a wet mop can be drug through impact incorrectly and in such a way that when switching from a wet mop to a golf club, lag won't happen.

Swab the deck mate. Can't push it and have the hands ahead of the big wet heavy mop head.

Someone who doesn't have lag and having read the above posts, still won't.

So the "jig" isn't up.

He or she will have an understanding of lag after dragging a mop. One step at a time. I'm sure some time in incubation is worth owning a secret.

[MizunoJoe]

He or she will have an understanding of lag after dragging a mop. One step at a time. I'm sure some time in incubation is worth owning a secret.

You can pull that mop through with "hands moving hands", i.e. adding hand effort to the pivot. For some the incubation period could be yrs.

[tongzilla]

I am not sure that I can buy into the logic.

True Angle Hinging per-se lack a true center, BUT it is quite clear the component composition in 12-1-0 for a Hitter is to use Angle Hinging.

...and?

So I guess what I am saying I don't track with your logic regarding Horizontal Hinging. In fact what would you say in regards to Vertical Hinging?

And I am a bit concerned that it appears that Hinging is the Key to Sustaining the Line of Compression, I thought there were some other elements that were of equal if not more importance.

Indeed the Impact Points for Vertical Hinging in 2-C-2 remains intact during Impact Interval. And Hinging is not a only factor. I'd be intereted in further comments from anyone.

[tongzilla]

So why is dragging a wet mop through impact helpful?

Because you can try to 'throw it away' with your hands and overaccelerate, and still get that sense of heaviness through Pressure Point 3. You can the right feeling even if you do things incorrectly. So you know what it should feel like when you've got a real club in your hands.
Now you've got something to compare against, a feel that you're striving for. So when you do 'get it', you can say to yourself, 'this feels similar to dragging a wet mop. Now I know what this Clubhead Lag stuff is really about'.

[Yoda]

Indeed the Impact Points for Vertical Hinging in 2-C-2 remains intact during Impact Interval.

And thus there is no loss of the Compression Point during Vertical Hinging (Clubface Layback Only) until the Clubhead passes through Low Point. Then, as the Clubhead moves parallel to the ground, the Clubface tilts under the Ball, the point of Compression is lost, and the result is the floating, ballistic trajectory of the Lob Shot.