Downswing

[wanole]

How do I make sure my shoulder is going downplanee properly. There really isn't a check for that is there?

[phillygolf]

How do I make sure my shoulder is going downplanee properly. There really isn't a check for that is there?

Sure there is!

A video camera from down the line. And dont be afraid to work on pivot controlled motions - take that right shoulder and drive it towards the ball, of course, also intermittently concentrating on the hands til it becomes 'automatic'.

-Patrick

[tongzilla]

Theoretically, the Right Shoulder should go downplane from the Top. However, after looking at many photos of pros at Impact, their Right Shoulder is almost always above Plane (above the in-line relationship of the Clubshaft and Right Forearm at Impact). It has occured to me that one needs to drive their Right Shuolder down a lot (maybe with more axis tilt?) in order to get into this On Plane position at Impact.

Any ideas?
Anyone got photos where the at Impact, you can draw a stright line from Sweetspot, Pressure Point #3 and throught the Right Shoulder (i.e. everything On Plane)? I know there is a posed photo in the book where Diane does that (sorry, haven't got book with me, but I think somewhere in 10-13).

[phillygolf]

Tong,
I am not sure Homer ever said the right shoulder is onplane at impact. I recall the statement of moving downplane lending the best support.

Far as I know Homer advocated a square or slightly open position at impact when pressed on the subject.

I think more importantly - from whereever the stroke ends, the right shoulder moves downplane initially.

Whatcha think?

[tongzilla]

The "On Plane" Downstroke Shoulder Turn was recommended by Homer per Basic Patterns 12-1 and 12-2. Look at the photo in 10-13-D #3. The arrow is trying to show that the Right Shoulder is On Plane even to the End of Follow Through. Note that I'm assuming if the Shoulder is On Plane at the Top (10-13-D #2) and also On Plane at Follow Through (10-13-D #3), then it must be On Plane in between these two Sections also.

I know it also says "when the Shoulder can't quite reach the Plane, it is better to use a steeper Plane". I'm trying to say that almost everyone uses a steeper Plane after studying many photos of pros (I excluded anyone using a Double Shift since they will be using the Elbow Plane, so the Right Shoulder will obviously not be On Plane).

[phillygolf]

Ok....ok. Good lord am I rusty. I was looking at it from a different point of view, and good call on your part!

Ok...let me try again...

[phillygolf]

That is one helluva question! I am looking at Els - and yes, his right shoulder is steeper... hmmm....same with Davis, Tiger, Norman.


Can anyone say from #3 accumulator? Just a guess....