Hitters clubface at top

[Thom]

Please explain the look of the clubface at top in these fine pics: www.lynnblakegolf.com/assets/dartfish/TedWedge/PerformanceAnalysis.html
I thought angled hinging was half turn (22.5*) to the plane (horisontal is 45* turn to the plane=left palm flat on plane). Therefore the shaft looks to be steeper and clubface looks closed at the top. But this might be the misconception you're talking about. Please explain again.

[bobbyj]

Would starting a swing stroke from impact fix promote angled hinging and therefore a fade? I am reasonbly new to TGM (but feel I am making good progress) and have found it easier to program my impact alignments by starting the backswing from impact fix. Could this be causing my unexpected fade? Should I move to a 10-9-A and 10-18-A to promote a horizontal hinge for swinging?

I would like to thank everybody (especially Yoda) for helping to 'pad out' the Little Yellow Book. It is great to know that my search has ended but my quest has only just begun....

[YodasLuke]

Would starting a swing stroke from impact fix promote angled hinging and therefore a fade? I am reasonbly new to TGM (but feel I am making good progress) and have found it easier to program my impact alignments by starting the backswing from impact fix. Could this be causing my unexpected fade? Should I move to a 10-9-A and 10-18-A to promote a horizontal hinge for swinging?

I would like to thank everybody (especially Yoda) for helping to 'pad out' the Little Yellow Book. It is great to know that my search has ended but my quest has only just begun....

Starting at impact fix gives you structure and rigidity. When I found in the book where Homer said it was useful for hitting, I put it in my pattern. I wouldn't recommend it for swinging, beacause you won't be in a position to drag the club back. You'll be in a position to carry it back. The drive out of the right arm is what causes angled hinging, not setting up in impact alignments. We all welcome you to the quest. The mysteries will all vanish, and you can end your subscription to Golf Digest and stop

[YodasLuke]

Please explain the look of the clubface at top in these fine pics: www.lynnblakegolf.com/assets/dartfish/TedWedge/PerformanceAnalysis.html
I thought angled hinging was half turn (22.5*) to the plane (horisontal is 45* turn to the plane=left palm flat on plane). Therefore the shaft looks to be steeper and clubface looks closed at the top. But this might be the misconception you're talking about. Please explain again.

I was using 10-5-E when those pics were taken, and I was starting with a closed clubface alignment to nullify the fade tendency of angled hinging.
I do like to fade the ball, as my previous instruction had me hooking it so bad the ball would travel in a circle. So there are times that I'll go back to 10-5-A, and I'll start with a clubface that's square (a fade is my friend in competition). My clubface at top is very different than in the pics and looks more square to plane.
I'll answer the next question, before you ask...(Why do you switch between 10-5-A and 10-5-E?) 10-5-E gives me the feeling of down and out which equals huge beaver pelts (divots). 10-5-A is the comfortable feeling of the baseline of my plane continuing toward my target.
As far as the turning of the hand, hitters and swingers will turn the palm to plane, with some sooner than others. Homer said swingers should do it as quickly as possible in start-up. The hitter might not accomplish this until top. The hand gets there for two different reasons. The swinger accomplishes it in the start-up swivel, where the hitter gradually gets there by pulling the left arm to top with no swivel. These start-up alignments have an effect on the position of the right elbow, which leads to a deeper discussion about the bad picture in the book about the pitch stroke.

[Yoda]

...a fade is my friend in competition...

Ted Fort has the heart of a Champion.

Nevertheless, despite his talent, drive and career-long pursuit of perfection, his Game eighteen months ago was a trainwreck. Putting it charitably, it just 'wasn't hap'nin'. Last week, he and I presented our three-day LBG Academy at the PGA of Southern California Golf Club. He would be the first to tell you that many of the principles presented there were first presented to him only eighteen months before.

The prior week, Ted finished solo second in a championship field of approximately sixty Georgia Section PGA Professionals. The following day, he shot 70 - two under par -- in a Pro-Am featuring many of the same professionals (but where low pro scores were not recorded). All of which is really 'more of the same': In a major Georgia Section PGA match play event three weeks after last summer's birth of Ted, III, Ted, Jr. -- who had been virtually AWOL from the golf course for weeks -- and his partner finished second.

Bottom Line:

Ted Fort is today playing a different Game. A Game based on Alignments, not Positions. A Game he teaches daily to his students.

And, in case you haven't noticed...

I am so very proud of him!

[hue]

Ted Fort has the heart of a Champion.

Nevertheless, despite his talent, drive and career-long pursuit of perfection, his Game eighteen months ago was a trainwreck. Putting it charitably, it just 'wasn't hap'nin'. Last week, he and I presented our three-day LBG Academy at the PGA of Southern California Golf Club. He would be the first to tell you that many of the principles presented there were first presented to him only eighteen months before.

The prior week, Ted finished solo second in a championship field of approximately sixty Georgia Section PGA Professionals. The following day, he shot 70 - two under par -- in a Pro-Am featuring many of the same professionals (but where low pro scores were not recorded). All of which is really 'more of the same': In a major Georgia Section PGA match play event three weeks after last summer's birth of Ted, III, Ted, Jr. -- who had been virtually AWOL from the golf course for weeks -- and his partner finished second.

Bottom Line:

Ted Fort is today playing a different Game. A Game based on Alignments, not Positions. A Game he teaches daily to his students.

And, in case you haven't noticed...

I am so very proud of him!

I have seen Ted,s action first hand and his ball striking is very impressive . The ball just never leaves the stick and you get the feeling that Ted is really thinking about and doing his best to hit it not just get it close.

Yoda: I understand that Ted was formerly a swinger . What was it about his action that made you feel that he was better suited to being a hitter?

Ted: How many shots a round do you feel you have improved by making your change to hitting.

[YodasLuke]

I have seen Ted,s action first hand and his ball striking is very impressive . The ball just never leaves the stick and you get the feeling that Ted is really thinking about and doing his best to hit it not just get it close.

Yoda: I understand that Ted was formerly a swinger . What was it about his action that made you feel that he was better suited to being a hitter?

Ted: How many shots a round do you feel you have improved by making your change to hitting.

I'll answer both, if I may...
I decided to go to hitting because of the feel of angled hinging. I had been taught to swing with angled hinging, which was a disastrous combination. And the thought of a start-up swivel and release swivel made me . Also, the idea of simultaneous release of the power package was interesting, when I had been taught that you had to "keep" clubhead lag. I now create lag.
I feel that my present pattern is about 6 to 8 shots better for me than the (so called) swinging that I was being taught. Hitting is not for the faint of heart, though. It takes conscious thought, on every shot, for the rest of your life. It's not like swinging, where you can place it on cruise control.
Thank God I met Lynn Blake. I'd still be switting!

[birdie_man]

Hitting is not for the faint of heart, though. It takes conscious thought, on every shot, for the rest of your life. It's not like swinging, where you can place it on cruise control.
Thank God I met Lynn Blake. I'd still be switting!

What do you have to consciously think about Ted?

[YodasLuke]

What do you have to consciously think about Ted?

Since centrifugal force is not throwing the club out and straightening the right arm, drive out or the conscious straightening of the right arm is always the thought.

[phillygolf]

[quote=YodasLuke]I'll answer both, if I may...
I decided to go to hitting because of the feel of angled hinging. I had been taught to swing with angled hinging, which was a disastrous combination. And the thought of a start-up swivel and release swivel made me . [quote]

Hi Ted...

Just curious...

Do you feel your improvement is due to hitting being more compatible with angled hinging (perhaps your feel preference) or due to your overall motion - meaning, its not necessarily the angled hinging piece, but just that hitting fits you better.

I ask because sometimes I feel Homer spoke in absolutes and of course perfection in alignments - which I am all for. However, I personally feel people shouldnt get too carried away on alot of the components (I'm in trouble now!)...and should always allow for psychological preferences.

There are a ton of swingers on tour using angled hinging. Just curious as to your thoughts on why the change has worked so well for you.

Thanks.