Lazy Man's Guide: Swinging vs Hitting

[12 piece bucket]

Left Wrist Cock and Uncock (Vertical Motion) -- Clubhead Motion

Left Hand Turn and Roll (Rotational Motion) -- Clubface Alignment

Regarding the last sentence of the first paragraph of 2-P:

• "Only with a Turned Left Wrist, such as 10-2-D, can Uncocking be both motions, that is, actually Throwing the Clubface at the Ball."

With the recommended Strong Single Action Grip (10-2-B), the Clubface Impact alignment is established in Fix with the Left Hand Vertical. During Release, the Clubhead is thrown by the Uncocking of the Turned Left Wrist. The Clubface is aligned by a separate Roll of the Left Hand into its Vertical Alignment for Impact. These actions are Sequenced for Swingers and Simultaneous for Hitters (4-D-0).

With a Strong Double Action Grip (10-2-D), the Clubface Impact Alignment is likewise established in Fix. However, with this Grip Variation, the Left Hand is Turned On Plane. During Release, just as in the Strong Single Action Grip, the Clubhead is thrown by the Uncocking of the Turned Left Wrist. But, because the Turned Left Wrist is also the Impact Alignment, no separate Left Hand Roll is required to Square the Clubface. Hence, Uncocking the Turned Left Wrist throws both Clubhead and Clubface at the Ball.

Thanks man! Crystal Clear! Much appreciated! Follow up question.

This came from the Archives. This makes a lot of since but would this also work for 10-2-D?

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[davel]

This may have not been necessary to think about but for me in learning the final move I needed to make was the swivel after the uncock. This is the way you return the clubshaft back on plane. Without it some great pushes. With it dead straight shots. For me it was not automatic at the time since my total thought was on my right side arm motion and the swivel is a left side function. Thanks to Yoda my penalty was 100 left arm only dowel swivel finishes for the rest of my life.
Dave


Dave

Originally Posted by tongzilla

Originally Posted by mb6606 12 Piece check out Lynn hitting a 6 iron video in the Gallery. If you play it frame by frame. Personally I feel the Karate chop stays against the plane then swivels after contact. The swivel is not forced just happens by itself. Yes, this is something I want to ask Yoda himself. I thought the Karate Chop is suppose to teach the Sequenced Release used by Swingers. Hitters use a Simultaneous Release, which basically feels like one big Angled Hinge Action on the downswing (a result of the turning of the body and the orbiting left arm), or a Paddlewheel Motion (if they have Turned their Left Hand on the face of the Inclined Plane at the Top). Sequenced Release is more compatible with the Throw Out action of Centrifugal Force. Simultaneous Release is more compatible with the Drive Out action of Right Tricep Muscle Power. Any comments? Should Hitters use a Release Swivel (Uncock then Roll) into Impact? I thought Hitters should only use a Finish Swivel. What was Yoda actually doing in the aforementioned video?

Swingers do the Uncock and swivel back to impact. For a swing on the back stroke, the swivel should be completed by hip height or sooner and on the down stroke it doesn't start until reaching hip height (aprox positions)

Hitters motion is such that the swivel isn't completed until the top and on down stroke it is just a continuation of movement to impact

At least that is the way I understand the action

[Theodan]

I don't think I have repeated this on this board as many times as I have on others....

Go to the Gallery and find 6bMike's video titled "Hitter's Row". It's a bit of a misnomer because 6bMike meant it more like the novel title "Murderer's Row" (of the golf ball). It is actually a face-on of Lynn Swinging and Ted Hitting. The compelling value of the vid is that they are doing their Total Motions almost in synchronization. But that is for another day. there is just so much in that video.

For today, just consider it an invaluable look at Ted's swing, face on. You don't have to have an eye forged on Homer Kelley's teachings to see general things which can be spoken of in the generic.

Just notice that when Ted is at Top and locked and loaded, everything about him is ready to drive "straight down". You can see it. And that's a driver in his hand, not an iron. Contrast that with Lynn's Swing that has to milk every inch out of the radius (and centrifugal force). So the down Action is more difficult to see.

I am just beyond novice and it was difficult to get the cognition of "Down" with the driver. Just couldn't get it until I saw Ted do it and that ball that just refused to fall from the sky.

That video is pure gold. Just run it in slo-mo over and over like Sybervision. Then let the questions flow.

Charlie

[Yoda]

Go to the Gallery and find 6bMike's video titled "Hitter's Row". It's a bit of a misnomer because 6bMike meant it more like the novel title "Murderer's Row" (of the golf ball). It is actually a face-on of Lynn Swinging and Ted Hitting. The compelling value of the vid is that they are doing their Total Motions almost in synchronization. But that is for another day. there is just so much in that video.

That video is pure gold. Just run it in slo-mo over and over like Sybervision. Then let the questions flow.

You're right, Charlie. Clearly, Ted is Hitting and I am Swinging http://www.lynnblakegolf.com/gallery...loadfile&i=122. In fact, the respective Strokes could be used as models for both Patterns. For comparative purposes, note the following 'Hitting versus Swinging' Component Variations:

-- Impact Address (10-9-B) vs. Classic Address (10-9-A)

-- Top Assembly Point (10-21-A) vs. End Assembly Point (10-21-C)

-- Fixed Lag Pressure Point vs. Rotated Lag Pressure Point (both explained in 10-11-0-3)

-- Drive Loading (of the Right Triceps / 10-19-A) vs. Drag Loading (of the Left Wrist / 10-19-C)

-- Power Accumulator #1 (Right Arm Drive-Out off backstop Right Shoulder / 6-B-1-A) vs. Power Accumulator #4 (Left Arm Throwout by driving Right Shoulder Turn Thrust / 6-B-4-A)

-- Right Arm Throw (10-19-B) vs. Left Wrist Throw (10-20-E)

-- Simultaneous Release vs. Sequenced Release (both explained in 4-D-0)

-- Angled Hinging (10-10-C) vs. Horizontal Hinging (10-10-D)

Especially telling is the differentiating use of the #1 versus the #4 Power Accumulators. We were both 'maxing out' in Release -- he of his Right Triceps Thrust and me of my Right Shoulder Turn Thrust (Body Momentum Transfer).

Students who use this video as a case study will go a long way toward advancing their understanding of Hitting and Swinging.